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Course 3, Discussion 3: When you don't get the role you want

FrenchToast December 5th, 2022

Hello, students! Let's talk leadership!

Many of you have or will apply for certain roles that interest you! And some times we get it and some times we don't! It can be difficult to find out that we didn't get the role, but we can control how we react to it.

Here are some DOs and DON'Ts:

- DO talk to the leader of the role that you applied for and get some input on what you can/need to do in order to get the role next time! Be aware though most leaders of these roles are busy so give it some time!

- DON'T bring the issue into the support rooms. If you are upset, talking to a peer supporter about how you are feeling is ok!

- DO take some self-care, self-care is good for any occasion but its best to deal with those feelings of failure or disappointment outside of 7 cups, things like going on your member account can be so helpful to overcome some of these feelings

- DON'T think that you are obligated to stay on 7 cups right after finding out bad news, especially if you are in LSR/TL and you see other listeners who have gotten the role that you wanted! It can be hard to deal with and it can cause unneeded jealousy or hurt on your part! Not everyone is like this but if you think that this is a possibility that you can think this way staying away might be a great option!

- DON'T take it personally, everyone is ready at different times. It can be hard for us to realize this but just because someone got the role and they might have been here in less or the same amount of time doesn't mean that you personally are ready! Everyone grows and accomplishes things at different times!

- DO get a mentor, in general its a good idea to get a mentor but for things like your goals on 7 cups mentors can be great and helpful! They can give you feedback, do mock chats with you, and overall help you with your goals as I said before!

- DON'T think you have to apply for every role and every team out there! There is time you don't have to apply for everything! Its super easy to burnout that way, and that can lead to more "rejection" and hurt that none of us want!

*Never let not getting a role the first time discourage you! You will be told when you can apply again and use the feedback that you get to better yourself when you can/decide that you are ready to! practice makes perfect none for us are perfect and no one will ever be! Its a good thing to remember no matter your role as a listener your help is greatly appreciated and you are still helping so many people!*

✒️Question: If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond? What would you say to the leader who has informed you?

✒️ Please reply to at least 1 of your peers in this thread with encouraging or supportive words!

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Mitanshi003 February 22nd, 2023

@FrenchToastClub

If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond?

<3 Firstly, I will ask the leader to provide me with feedback, inform me about the areas of improvement, and provide me with any suggestions possible. Then I'd prefer to take a self-care break. After the break, I'd find a compatible mentor and seek guidance. I believe this process would keep me grounded and avoid burnout. 🌺

What would you say to the leader who has informed you?

<3 My response would be:

Hello there, hope you're having a wonderful day. Thank you for informing me that my enrollment has been rejected. I'd appreciate it if you could provide me with feedback in regards to why I've been rejected and my areas of improvement along with suggestions if you have any.
😊


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YourCaringConfidant February 22nd, 2023

@Mitanshi003 Great reply! But I do not know who would reject you... you are pretty great! :)

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Mitanshi003 February 22nd, 2023

@YourCaringConfidant Awww, I'm glad you feel that way 🌺

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iPHOENIX February 26th, 2023

✒️Question: If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond? What would you say to the leader who has informed you?


First of all obviously I'll be a bit sad not getting that role, because I believe it makes us human. But I also know that it doesn't define anything, it doesn't mean we are not worthy of that role or anything. It just say that,

1. We may not be ready for that role or we doesn't have the required requirements yet.

2. Or simply it's not for us. Because people are different and our strength and weakness too.



I'll say to the the leader who brings the feedback,


"Thank you for letting me know and giving the feedback, it's a bit sad news but I do understand I'm not ready for that role yet. But may I ask for your help to prepare the role for better or can you give me resources that I can be better at this?"

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EnigmaticCat24 March 1st, 2023

@iPHOENIX

Great answers! Keep it up!

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EnigmaticCat24 March 1st, 2023

@FrenchToastClub

✒️Question: If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond? What would you say to the leader who has informed you?

I would ask about feedbacks and suggestions regarding that matter, contact a mentor and take help (tricks and tips) before applying next time. I would like to take self care break if i felt burn out.


Hello leader! I hope you are having great day! Thanks for contacting me. Can i know the reason i got rejected ? Do you have feedbacks and suggestions regarding that, if you have any can you please share them with me? Please take your time and respond back to this message. Thank you!!!

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Trintzu March 8th, 2023

@Tobedoctor good answer! ❤️

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Trintzu March 8th, 2023

@FrenchToastClub

✒️Question: If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond? What would you say to the leader who has informed you?

First I would take a breath and take a moment for myself.

Then would reply:

Dear (username), thank you for the information, I appreciate that. Could you please kindly share with me the feedback on my test and areas, where I could improve more to succeed next time?

Thank you in advance, Trin


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vivelespatates March 11th, 2023

@Trintzu great response!

Comfortablesmile December 4th, 2023

@Trintzu

I like your professional respond to rejection. One great skill we all have to learn is how to accept rejections sincerely. Put up a good fight and you will get your desired congratulations.

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vivelespatates March 11th, 2023

Here is how I would respond to someone that inform me of my rejection:

"Hi (name).
I'm so sad I havent got the role. Can I know what weighed in your decision? What are the things I could improve for being considered again in future? Will I can reapply someday or is it final decision? Anyway thank you for letting me know! "


Though, what do I do when I applied, and NEVER heard back, not even negative or positive? After how long it's ok to contact the leader?
and if we don't know who the leader is?
@FrenchToastClub

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JoyHappyNess March 24th, 2023

@vivelespatates

Great answer Patates and I like how you ask additional questions....

what do I do when I applied, and NEVER heard back, not even negative or positive? After how long it's ok to contact the leader?

and if we don't know who the leader is?

Those are interesting questions and I am also curious to know how to behave in these situations. Do you give up? Do you keep texting? Where do I post my concerns in the scenario where I don't know the leader? @FrenchToastClub

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FrenchToast OP March 24th, 2023
@JoyHappyNess @vivelespatates I do believe the general rule of thumb is for leaders to send out rejections. If you haven't heard back at all in a week, it is useful to follow up after a week has passed to get more information. If you don't know the leader, you can ask either an ambassador or an admin to help you out as well, and I am sure they would be more than happy to direct you to the leader.
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vivelespatates March 24th, 2023

@FrenchToastClub I applied 3 times for the same role within a 6 months range, and I havent heard back for any of three. It's sure disappointing.

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FrenchToast OP March 24th, 2023

@vivelespatates If you want to PM me about what role it was, I am happy to reach out on your behalf and connect you with the leaders so you can get appropriate feedback for rejections or reasons.

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FrenchMarbles March 15th, 2023

@vivelespatates

Sadly, if you haven't heard back, it might be a form of rejection; ensuring all applicants get a response should be mandatory. Great answer and this is a comment to demonstrate that due to the compulsory rule of having to respond to a comment to demonstrate that I am a leader. Makes absolutely no sense.

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FrenchMarbles March 15th, 2023

Question: If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond? What would you say to the leader who has informed you?

Hi, thank you so much for reaching out to me; while I am disappointed I did not get the role I wanted, I know that there are others out there, and it will take some time to find the proper role that matches my skills. I hope you have a good day and no hard feelings between us.

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FeureVox March 19th, 2023

@FrenchMarbles

That is indeed a very positive response to encourage yourself to keep trying.

JoyHappyNess March 24th, 2023

@FrenchMarbles

Such positive attitude Marbles😀... Impressive message to the leader

@FrenchMarbles 

nice response :)

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FeureVox March 16th, 2023

@FrenchToastClub

✒️Question: If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond? What would you say to the leader who has informed you?

Hello Leader; thank you very much for reaching out to me on my leadership role. I feel sad and happy at the same time about having honest feedback. I would appreciate it if you could please share words of advice and feedback, which will help me to improve my performance and future dealings.

FeureVox

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Heartsandrosesandpaws March 20th, 2023

@FeureVox

well said. You got to point and was clear about what you wanted to say.

JoyHappyNess March 24th, 2023

@FeureVox

Awesome, 😎 I smiled when I read that you felt happy and sad... You were true about your feelings to the leader and I'm sure such a message would warrant the leader's help on how to improve yourself.

Heart4art April 13th, 2023

@FeureVox I like how you asked for feedback!

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Heartsandrosesandpaws March 20th, 2023

Hi leader,

Thanks for reaching out about role. I am just wondering if you can give me some insight on why I did not get the role? Can u also give me feedback on what I can do to help me get the role in the future?

I think I would do some self care off. Cups before I contact the leader so I would be calm when I try to talk to the leader,

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AvyIsKing March 21st, 2023

@Waterfallsofnature36

Great answer!

JoyHappyNess March 24th, 2023

@Waterfallsofnature36

Doing self care before approaching the leader is highly commendable😀

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AvyIsKing March 21st, 2023

✒️Question: If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond? What would you say to the leader who has informed you

Hi leader,

thank you for reaching out about my role, i was wondering if you could offer an information on why

i didn't get the role, and possibly offer some feedback to help me get the role in the future.


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JoyHappyNess March 24th, 2023

@Jefferythebunny319

Asking the why is a very crucial step as it provides opportunities for feedback. I like your approach😀

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March 22nd, 2023

Question: If you find out you were not given a role, how should you respond?

Firstly, I would step back, and take a moment to regain my composure. Then I would reach out to the leader as followed below.

What would you say to the leader who has informed you?

Hey <leader's name>, thank you for informing me. Though I'm a bit sad that I wasn't able to get the role this time, I think it would be appreciated if you could provide feedback on my performance, so that I can work on the areas which require improvement. Thanks again for reaching out!
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JoyHappyNess March 24th, 2023

@charmingFlower8111

I like the message to the leader. It shows a desire to grow.

KarmaTheRascal March 24th, 2023

@charmingFlower8111

This is a very great response to that. I like how you put it and its short, sweet, and simple!

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