Room Announcement

@GretasRebel Um... I think you meant snowflake. ❤️

@MonBon So this was allowed but you editted comments in other places?

@Dawn04

Can you flag any posts you think need to be looked at?

@MonBon I already did! I guess you are just willing to edit comments not in favor of changes.

@Dawn04

Sorry there are a lot of posts in the queue right now. Can you pm me the comment so I can take a look?

@MonBon You and I both know why I don't PM you. Stalker situation ring a bell?

@Dawn04

I am not sure what you are referring to, I'm sorry. If you don't feel comfortable reaching out to me in pms, I recommend connecting with another forum mentor if there are posts you think need to be looked at. You can find a list of forum mentors here.

I tried looking through this thread but I couldn't see anything that needed editing. There are a lot of high strung feelings, so I've been trying to only edit if there is a breach of confidentiality or a direct attack on someone. I have also replied to a few posts if there is a question I can answer, a misconception I can address, or I am directly tagged. I can give you specific examples of what I'm talking about if you reach out to me in pm, but you have let me know you are not comfortable doing so, so this is as much as I can elaborate here.

@MonBon Right on this page is an example of someone being insulting that you didn't delete, ONLY because it was in your favor....

[edited by Anomalia to remove the example that has been addressed above]

@GretasRebel - Like a bully, you belittle others and laugh at them. Please cease. Thank you.

@wontwakewontsleep you need to brush up your reading comprehension, no where did I laugh at anyone m stunned at the entitlement and aggression here. Glen is in charge of this place if he wants to change things to improve it's his right :) I am many things and bully is not one of them. But I see your intention to make me feel bad. You're not gonna succeed. Thank you x

@GretasRebel I just think its funny that you're ATTACKING members for venting (or attacking as you call it) about 7cups. ❤️

What I could use less of is the "You're overreacting" and the "We can see you're upset" and the "We just need to move on" that I have seen from some people in the chat rooms and the forum. I don't need my feelings minimized. That is not helpful and is not welcome. I don't expect things to go back to the way they were, but it would be nice if those of us who are upset could be allowed to have those feelings without being patronized to. You don't get to decide whether my feelings are valid or not and I don't need you to try to fix me. If you can't just sit with me in how I'm feeling, don't feel that you need to insert yourself into the situation.

With all that said, I appreciate all of the Mods, Listeners, and Members who are being genuinely understanding and supportive during this difficult time.

I have a brilliant idea.

Let's take a bunch of emotionally vulnerable people and throw in a HUGE change to what they have become accustomed to as a safe space, not ask prior to the change for their solutions for the issue, and then just hope it all turns out for the best.

What could possibly go wrong?!

*shrugs*

Never would have imagined a place set up for people to be heard, actually wouldnt listen at all to their users.

@JustSomeKSGirl

I find myself staring at my 7cups screen

My mouths open but i cannot scream

Everybody talks & I dont know what it means

Poor communication, Its ashameful thing

@humorousDay8793 *THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE*

@Siove

Thank you

@GlenM

I don't understand how someone who started this site for the purpose of helping people (I would assume), could pull the rug out from under a vulnerable population of people so suddenly.

As a psychologist, you must know how devastating that can be for people who are already on the edge.

For many people, the chat rooms here are all they have for support. It has been heartbreaking to go into the remaining rooms and watch people arrive and be crushed by the news that their room is gone and their friends are missing.

I wonder how many people have come here ready to give up on life, only to find their support system gone.

So much for providing a safer, more supportive environment.

@DarkSquirrel

Lol u took the words right out of my mouth. This just happened to me. I only talk to ppl on the chat, rarely in life. I come on 7 cups, and now its gone. I guess nothing good lasts forever, egh?

@Redheadbaker7206

Interesting. I did not get a notification that I was tagged. Just decided to look here again.

In the future I plan on using more than one site. This is the second time a support site has let me down in a big way.

What I have learned in life is that most people abandon their conscience once they attain enough power. Sad but true.

Oh, and your Community Mods are still allowing people to be nasty in the rooms. (I would report one in particular, but what would the point of that be? You clearly don't care.)

If you ever truly cared about creating a supportive environment, you have failed.

Just wanted to thank the genius who initiated the new room changes on 7cups, people i looked forward to talking with an could rely on to be around for support are no longer here, and since there is no way to contact them because there is one on one email feature i am left in the wind on if i will see them again. Thanks for throwing the baby out with the bath water. real smart move. Rule of thumb when dealing with people that need a reliable place to go to for their mental health is that sudden and abrupt changes are not smart moves. Also the two rooms that are left, are now giant cluster bombs during peek hours full of random conversations that can not be properly moderated , and the moderators just sit there looking for bad behavior instead. What is funny is that they do special keys now for the LGBTQ and Disability room, as if there was some giant fear of litigation or being ripped on by those two communities as being insensitive . Where as the one good room, that had zero issues and was able to self moderate and care for each other as friends, and welcome people who really needed help ( 35+ ) just gets tossed into the wind.

So instead of making it easier for moderators to moderate by changing the insane moderator rules, lets just screw up the chat rooms instead. Perhaps when the donations stop flowing in, the mistake will be realized an things will go back to normal. Literally a wet noodle, could of made a better decision for 7cups than what has been done.

@aVeryoriginalScreenname

I AGREE

..i feel it is very important for everybody to feel they are an important part of something wonderful. I needed purpose in my life but I didnt know it was the main cause of my feeling empty inside. When two people talk, it doesnt matter who is who, as members and listeners both contribute on the site.

Everybody should understand the monitary value of these conversations;

Our conversations are analyzed and the most important information is regularlly bought sold and traded/shared. Money is genetated by our chats, posts, and insights: therefore we are all equal here.

We should all have been notified.

These changes affected moods, and emotions, and was intrusive and unexpected. That's why it bothered me and was upsetting and affected so many negatively.

I hope some good eventually happens on the site.

Im upset though because some lives are as fragile as one sentence delivered badly.

Research shows that huge numbers of the mental health community suffers from fears, and change.

I hope we didnt loose anybody for real, but we may never know for sure why so many people closed their accounts.

Thank you

@humorousDay8793

Especially sudden and drastic changes to their support systems.

Honestly, I've had a few days to think about it and on paper, the idea of requiring badges and the like to access the rooms isn't a bad one. It's the execution that's so problematic. Requiring over 100 messages to listeners who are VERY MUCH a mixed bag (see this thread, I talk about a few I've encountered), the fact that people who do qualifty for the bages still aren't able to access the rooms and the fact this was so sudden and seemingly unplanned (a head's up would've been nice) are what make this so awful.

I have managed to grab a bit of a support system outside of 7Cups, but others on here are no so fortunate. Some of those that used the Disabled support room, for instance may not be able to leave the house and gather a network. Some of those that used the LGBTQ room may not be able to find a network without being outed, which can have horrific consequences depending on where you live and who you live with. People have been killed after being outed, so it's not something to take lightly.

What about the Relationship Support room? I have talked to people in there who were living in abusive relationships and as such were cut off from support networks outside.

All in all, these changes (and how they were handled) outright tells me that those in charge of this website don't care about us.

@TheMadQueen420

Yes indeed.

The #1 Priority must be the health and well being of us all!

Any website that deals with real people who suffer should always consider us first.

We are a diverse community who need a safe space.

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!😊

NOT TO WISE AT ALL

@aVeryoriginalScreenname

@SirJambabwe

This site is somewhere between the democratic stage and the tyranical stage btw

@SirJambabwe

oh not at the tyranny stage yet? someone hasnt taken a look at the site guidelines requiring users of the site to go and get permission from the social soldiers group here before they can make accounts on other websites and what they can do elsewhere online (and offline) > https://www.7cups.com/forum/SafetyKnowledgeat7Cups_181/CommunityGuidelines_1374/7cupsrelatedsocialmediaGuidelines_182868/

@SirJambabwe ok, boomer

^This crap is the reason why 35+ is needed.

7CUPS STILL GAVE NO APPOLOGY

Percieving what we believe in is decieving and has no meaning as life's mistreating dishes out this beating leaving us bleeding but we cant see it if we close our minds and we cant think about this when we're blind, so walk away and you will find, a freind here waiting for a sign!

So take your time and organise whats on your mind and you'll find you're not really behind, so relax your eyes and realize you're fine, just the way you are. And you can reach for the stars, put cream on the scars, and healing transpires. The delusional parts only confuse our goals and corrupt our souls leaving us with a heart full of holes. Set goals now and your mind will see what closed eyes has failed to believe, don't let sight deceive keeping us on our knees; throwing logic into the breeze. Winds at your back excited, Winds of hope reignited me. Step by step confide so we can share secrets of life thinking "what could be" If we let it, if you hold back you'll regret it.

There, Now I've gone and said it!

We hold ourselves down; Dirty on the ground I've found myself tourmented and bound by invisibility. I've ignorged all possibility, so I must set myself free of a self-inflicted confined mystery.

Often times in the real world and in places such as this you can do only one thing really..

Abandon all hope and vote with your feet.. They can fight your arguments, they can ignore them, they can demonize you for resisting, but often they cannot do anything about people who abandon the process, the existing system and just walk away.

Sure it seems like giving up. But can you really have hope of winning in a rigged game ? Conserving your energy for stuff worth fighting for is often the pragmatic choice..

@SirJambabwe

I did take 2 24hr strike breaks and I felt I had to come back to support my freinds here. If i created a site, it would be owned and operated by ALL its members

@SirJambabwe

@humorousDay8793 Krusty Krab Funfair? Where?

@SirPostaLot

@GlenM

I'm happy about this change. It makes it so much simpler and hopefully they can be better moderated! Thanks for paying attention to this site and making positive changes for a better experience here.

@MythologicalMayhem

Oooops appologies, i didnt see the gif had a message. I just asked @monbon to remove it

@humorousDay8793 What?

@GlenM

I'm all for improved experience and safety, but honestly, could you please provide a diagram of how this works? From your description it sounds like a change at intake level and also requiring more easily acquired connection to 7Cups as a member, but the protection of existing rooms and these "pop-ups" isn't clear to me and likely others as well. A real visual diagram or slideshow would make intelligible what is probably hard to describe with words alone.

It's over, folks. Go home. Hug your friends and family. Don't linger here.