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Hi @bestVase7265 This is a place where we can chat with each other. Thank you so much for supporting me, Vase. I'm very grateful and I'm happy to continue our previous conversion here. 😊
nobody needs me. i lost my reason to live. yup, you could say my friend in school needs me because she told me yesterday that she felt lonely when i was absent on saturday. and i don't really want to leave and make anyome feel lonely because i know how hard loneliness is.
but she has made me feel lonely too. in fact, she's the one who taught me what loneliness is. until 8th grade, never in my life did i know what it's like to feel lonely. and it's not like i had a lot of friends till then, i didnt. but i didn't mind being friendless. i was totally fine with it. i liked being alone. it never felt bad. but then this "friend" of mine made friends with me in 7th grade. and it felt so good, until it didn't. those few months that our frienship was thriving felt like the best months of my life. then it was all gone. never told me what went wrong, never said anything, it was just... gone. it got to the point of her behaving like we never knew each other. now that taught me what it's like to feel lonely and abandoned.
so now, when she has made me feel unbearable pain, how do i care if i make her lonely when i leave? maybe my life wouldn't even be how it is now, if she hadn't hurt me like that.
i have to push through so many thoughts and so much pain every day to just live. and i'm sitting here wondering, what the h3ll am i doing this for? everything's pointless. if i know i'm helping somebody and being useful in this world, it's easier. without it, i'm just a useless burden with suicide as the only way out. i don't see any way out of the mess in my head. the pain is too much.
sometime between 25th and 27th would be a good opportunity because my mother won't be home. but i cant choose between those 3 days...
okay, so sports day is over. it was... weird.
our house's vice captain started feeling unwell and had to sit down before we even finished the marchpast. people have so many thoughts on that. some say "vice captains are supposed to be strong and inspiring" other say "she's just human". she was then helped to the first aid thing on the corner of the school ground.
i later overheard a conversation between her and some people trying to support and encourage her. because she cried and was extremely embarrassed about what happened. that makes sense, you know. she's standing right in front as vice captain and she sits down all of a sudden in front of so many people on the final day. someone asked her "are you okay now?" she responded "physically i'm fine. mentally i am not." she went on to share how her heart just started pounding and everything went black so she sat down.
i think she's really struggling a lot, in terms of mental and physical health. i've noticed her missing weeks of school at a time. she looks incredibly dull and weak. i never thought of it so much until today. i feel bad for her because she has so much pressure on her as a vice captain. she does have friends though and they seem to be supportive. and she got some people to support her today (not really her friends, but yeah, some others.) i wish i could help but i didn't want to because i know she sees me as a competitor and we arent really on good terms. (she's good at english and in 7th grade she started seeing me as a competitor for highest marks in english. even in 9th grade, she's been asking about my english marks so i know she still sees me like that.)
anyway, when it was time for the chief guest's speech, he came up and gave all that advice you know. "participate in sports now because it'll help you when you're older. you need it even if you don't like it. you want to be able to walk and talk till your last day. if you can do that, that's a great achievement." so... if i die at age 14-15 and can walk and talk till my last day, that's an achievement? lol, that really makes me laugh.
"sports make you mentally strong and you need that to succeed in life." okay, and what if i don't have the physical strength to do any sports? so i'll be mentally weak and fail everything? i really don't sports and there's nothing physical i can really even do because i have, and have always had very low energy levels. i get tired so easily. and i'm really always tired, both physically and mentally. i remember my mother used to make me do swimming classes when i was in 1-3rd grade. everyone else would so much without getting tired and i'd get tired with just a little bit. i have hardly had any energy in my whole life. so there is literally i can do without becoming half dead, except yoga poses and like stretching exercises. i'm good at that because i'm really flexible as compared to most others i know. and i can ride a bicycle pretty well but that too is horribly tiring. also, what does it mean to be mentally strong? what if i cant be strong? what if i'm really sensitive emotionally and i struggle with depression? it means i'll fail?
and his advice also included stuff like "eat well, work hard, sleep well" and stuff. what if i cant? i'm struggling with something no one can see, and it makes everything hard. i cant work hard and i cant sleep well. now what?
(responding to your message from today)
it's okay if you took a bit longer to reply. it's perfectly okay. i'm glad you got your stuff done. it sounds good to have it done. good luck with all that you still need to be doing.
i tried but i think i really messed up both the tests.
you're right about wifi lol it's so helpful sometimes but also very unhelpful other times.
umm can you help me figure out a good schedule for my winter break? 20th is the last day of school before hols and i'll be back in school on 3rd jan. that's 13 days of break and i cant afford to waste it away like i wasted my summer and diwali hols. i need to study and complete my notebooks, and actually study too. and i also wanna have some time for cups and other fun stuff. i don't want my sleep schedule to become a mess, i want to fix it rather. so how am i supposed to do everything to make sure i actually make the best of my holidays?
what would be a good time to wake up? my mother will be more lenient about waking up because she doesn't have to worry about the maid coming at 9 am anymore. she just fired the maid today, so today was her last day working here. my mother has had enough of her horrible work behaviour (she's been lying, arguing and not doing her work properly). anyway, so she wont let me sleep till too late, but i do have some more freedom. so when do i wake up and try to sleep? and how do i manage studying and cups?
"What kinds of things do people normally do for internships?" they find some organisations that offer internships to school kids and charge for it, like we have to pay to do the internship. that's what my mother is saying, i don't really know.
my parents came up with an idea. my mother was thinking i'll go to my father's office and take some pics of pretending to do something there, and write some random stuff about it. (he's a mes (military engineering services) contractor so he technically has his own company lol.)Â but my father says his office is not in a condition for me to do that and send those pics to the school. and i agree his office is in bad condition. it's a very dirty spidery place made of tin sheets (because they don't allow permanent construction) and he doesn't clean his place properly.
so he's gonna bring home come bulky files and stuff and we'll just take pics of me pretending to do something at his desk at home. basically we plan to fake everything. lol. it's all my mother's idea and i think i love it. we can make it look real with my father's company logo and everything. and the school wants some kind of certificate can my father could even produce something like that. what a lovely way to do nothing and get my marks! i feel lucky lol that my father has a company that's all his.
i don't know how things will be when she's not here. last year when it happened, my father was really depressed and hence easier to deal with compared to his usual. he's not really depressed anymore. it's not like i enjoy seeing him struggle with depression, but he's easier to get along with when he's depressed. when my mother was gone in may this year, things didn't really go great with me and him at home.
Somehow I completely missed that second post last night. I will attempt to get as much of it here as possible in the time that I have to type.
Ok, that first part of the message from yesterday has lots of it that isn't really true. First of all, you will hurt more than just your one friend by leaving. You know it. You will hurt your entire support network. You are helping lots of people in the world simply by smiling and caring. And you have NO idea what you could do that would be awesome in the future. You deprive the entire world if you leave. Yes, friends can hurt you. They often do. Loving someone, caring about a friend, means that you are going to not always see eye to eye. Friendships do evolve because everyone is self-absorbed.
As I have said in other situations, focus less on the pain and more on what you can do to believe in you. Have you started looking at that beginning 7 Cups stuff yet? Remember, I was only suggesting once a week for now. Just read it. You don't have to do what it suggests. It will really help how you think about things. Most definitely - DON'T BE SELECTING DAYS. That is horrific and really hard for me to imagine. You have fought too hard to lose the battle now. Have you ever looked at 7 Cups specific help page for India:Â https://www.7cups.com/local/in/Â Â
Your vice captain's struggles show you that everyone is having challenges right now. She could have been having a panic attack in addition to a medical issue. You are right to want to offer her compassion.Â
I will get to the rest tomorrow.Â
@bestVase7265 it's okay, you can take your time to reply.
i know i'll hurt a lot of people if i leave. i know it. but then these people don't really need me for anything you know. my school friend needs me because she has basically cut off everyone else and needs me to help her when she's absent and to give her company when she's present.
what do you mean "You are helping lots of people in the world simply by smiling and caring."? when do i smile? i'm not a person who smiles a lot. in general, i try to keep a very neutral or serious face. i don't smile much unless something makes me...
i wish i could care less about everything. i care about literally everything and it's so tiring. i'm always worrying and worrying and thinking and overthinking because i seem to care about everything. i hate this.
"And you have NO idea what you could do that would be awesome in the future. You deprive the entire world if you leave." what if i end up not being able to do anything good in the future? because i'm just wandering so aimlessly now i feel like i'm setting myself up for failure. and i don't want to take science and do that silly doctor engineer thing because everyone else is doing it. and with those, things are kinda predictable and set. if i go with something more "unusual", what if it ends up not working out?
yeah, i read it sometimes if i find the title interesting. lol. umm and no, i have never seen that india page before, thanks for sharing it. what am i to do after reading it though?
yeah i know i wanted to help our vice captain but i could not. so what's the point of wanting to do it?
i feel sooooo sleepy. i cant keep my eyes open anymore. it's 11:12 pm, that's not anything too late. last night i want to bed at 12:30 am. i am still so sleepy today. i dunno what's going on. i'm gonna pack up and go to bed now. i'm too sleepy to post good moments today or do anything at all.
Ok, going to try to respond to everything tonight.Â
As far as the sports speech - some like sports, some don't. It is okay if you don't. You don't have to follow everything you hear.
I am not much of an athlete myself except for daily walks. I began to realize during my long mental health journey that they really, really helped me to not get overwhelmed mentally. I was actually surprised because I don't really like physical activity. It is where I was most bullied when I was your age. But the walks have made healing possible for me.
I would love to try to help you come up with a schedule for your upcoming break. I would probably try for a 9 am wakeup time because it is later than when you wake up for school but not too late and I'd try for a 1 am bed time (or wind down time). Keep it close to your school time because then you aren't jumping back and forth. You seem to work better in the evening than in the morning, but I'd probably try a little each morning to see if that particular morning you are up to do some work then as well. If you can just do some mornings you are going to feel a bit better about homework if you don't wait until 6 pm each night to start. Your mother is also less likely to be cranky if she is helping you in the morning versus the evening. Try to aim to get any help you need from her when she appears least stressed out.
It sounds like a good "internship" plan. It isn't something they should really be pushing all that hard at your age anyway. I would think about it as an internship in photo arranging. The photo part could be something you might enjoy and might use. Maybe it is something that you can laugh about a bit with your father. I am still going to hope that you can get along okay when your mom is gone.
Ok, onto your most recent post. Part of depression is caring about everything. There are times that I wish I didn't have that part either. But I have slowly realized that caring and empathy are actually everything. They are what I offer to the world and make me feel good about myself because I know I am actively trying to make it better. You are too, but you are just at the beginning of your journey. I have seen you offer kindness in how you have described lots of situations. Don't focus just on that one friend. There are lots of others you are impacting less directly. Maybe it isn't smiling. Maybe it is opening a door or waiting your turn in line or a drink of water or a listening ear here on 7 Cups. Those interactions matter greatly both to the people that you share them with and in fighting back against all the depression demons.
Wandering around aimlessly right now is what most people your age are doing. You aren't supposed to know anything. That's okay. You have a better chance of doing something great in the future BECAUSE you care (even when you wish you don't). That's why I think you can really make a nice impact on the world. The world needs people that overthink things. It might not work out. That's always a chance. But that is no excuse not to try. Go for the unusual. That is where your heart is taking you. You already know that basic fact so you actually are less aimless than you think.
i have a problem. i skipped school today. my reason? nothing much of use has been happening in school lately. most of teacher have been giving free periods, so i got nothing to miss. maths is the first period on fridays and it was likely to get missed due to a special assembly in the amphitheatre for christmas. the maths teacher is the one teacher who will never give a free period. and we had physics notebook submission (and the physics teacher is another one who never gives a free period) and my notebook was completely incomplete. so i just skipped.
i thought my friend would tell me what was done in school, like she always does. but the just sent me a "why were you absent?" message and that's it. i dunno what to tell her. i made the mistake of kinda suggesting an absence yesterday. and she insisted that i be present so she doesn't feel lonely. (and i don't think it's my job to show up at school just because she feels lonely without me, i never stopped her from making other friends and also, she has made me not just feel lonely, but learn what loneliness is). so i don't know what to tell her now. i haven't responded to her message yet. i just read it from the notification. i asked my mother how i can respond and she told me to figure it out myself because it was my decision to skip and she wanted me to go.
also, another problem. lately i've been feeling so sleepy after dinner, every day. so it's hard to do anything after dinner. normally after dinner is the time of the day when i actually get the most work done. that's not working anymore. i dunno what's up with my body. whatever it is, it means if i procrastinated all day and thought i'd get stuff done at night, the entire day goes to waste and i hardly get anything done at night. help.
to respond to your message, well, it's practically impossible to follow everything i hear. everyone says something different, you can never follow all of it. well, i'm glad the walks help you.
my mother sadly wont allow anything past 8:30 am. so that's my wakeup time. and i'm really not sure about the bedtime, like what do i do if i'm sleepy?
and honestly i don't know about this morning and evening mess. in the evening when i can normally get more done, my mother comes to teach me stuff. she doesn't have time in the morning. it's all a mess and i feel so frustrated. any my mother doesn't look very interested to help. today she came to help so late and messed up my plans. right now i called her to ask something and she was so uninterested in helping and just wanted to go. it's annoying. i feel so frustrated right now i wanna bang my head on the wall but i don't want to give myself a horrible headache so i'm trying not to so i'm typing here instead.
"I would think about it as an internship in photo arranging." lol
part of depression is caring about everything? it's generally believed that depression is not caring about anything. well i think caring is good when we care about people. it's hard when you literally care about everything. like schoolwork, tidiness, appearance, what people think of you, etc etc.
"Maybe it is opening a door or waiting your turn in line or a drink of water or a listening ear here on 7 Cups." no opening doors lol. waiting my turn in line? yeah i do that. every morning while getting off the school bus, i am usually the last one to get off because i let everyone else go first and don't enter it unless someone particularly lets me. i dunno if anyone notices what i do though.
well, listening ear on cups? i don't really do much of that as a member except occasionally trying to help on forums. i'll be able to become a listener on here after i turn 15, that's about 3 weeks. i am most certainly considering becoming a listener but i dunno if i'll really be able to handle everything. right now the only helping on cups that i do is as a part of the peer appreciation team. reminds me, i haven't done any of my work in a while and i feel so bad about it.
"Wandering around aimlessly right now is what most people your age are doing." no, most people know what they have to do. it could be what they want to do or what their parents want them to do, but whatever. wait, the world needs people who overthink things? seriously? why do you say that?
sure, i want to do something other than the usual doctor and engineer. like what would the world become if that's what everyone did? reminds me of a poem we did in english. you know the poem called the road not taken by robert frost? i'm not sure if i truly understand it but i remember the last line "i took the one less travelled by and that had made all the difference". anyway, let it be. the unusual comes with so much risk you know. i don't like risks. i like safety and predictability. i'm scared. i'll need money, also don't want to do anything that's too stressful or something.
you know what, i really don't want to grow up. i feel like i'd have to manage everything by myself when i grow up. that terrifies me. i depend on my parents so much without even realising it. and my mother keeps telling me that she'll disappear when i turn 18. every now and then, she keeps saying stuff like "just about 3 more years to go and then i'll be free." i dunno what she plans on doing but i feel like such a burden when she says that and i feel like she might try to k!ll herself when i grow up. she's just waiting for it so she can d!e. and i cant imagine what i'd do if she ever disappeared like that. as much as i hate her and sometimes wish she'd just get out of my life, i need her. i really do. i depend on her so much. and my father is gonna be of no use. i don't understand why my mother has to scare me like this. i really don't want to grow up. i'm not capable of managing everything by myself. there's so much in this world that i don't understand.
you say i've fought too long to lose the battle now. but that will only be worse the more i wait. i don't want to grow any older than i am now. things will be better if i end it now and stop waiting to do it. life only keeps getting harder.
I think that I am only going to have time for a few sentences on the first post tonight, but I will try.
If you feel guilty about skipping then that is what you tell your friend. You shouldn't have done it and you are going to try to catch up. Just tell her that you needed a day. But I would avoid skipping school whenever possible at this point because you can do work during the free periods if studying at night is hard because you are exhausted.
For the beginning of the next message - try to go to bed by midnight if 8:30 is the wakeup time. Avoid naps so you can get solid, longer sleep. Do the best that you can. Work around when your mom might be best able to offer to help, but know that perfection really isn't possible. You are just going to try your best.
So depression is like a line that you can easily go over when you become overwhelmed. Then your brain starts shutting down. You have to worry less about what other people think of you and more about how you care about them. That's the part that you are still figuring out. Always remember that others are just as self-absorbed as you are. That means they literally don't really see what you look like or what your homework looks like.Â
You also put too much pressure on you to be perfect and do everything. No one can do everything. Those little things like waiting or talking to even one person on 7 Cups matters. They are enough. You are enough.
People your age only look like they have their act together. Literally NO ONE does. This comes from me working with students like you for years. It is what I do in part for a living. Overthinking means not doing just what your parents think you should in terms of the future. Then you get 5-10 years into their program and realize you hate it. You are much more likely to end up with something you enjoy because you question things now. I love Robert Frost and he is a good way to be thinking.
I know how scary it all is. I like being settled too. But what it is is a really slow road that reveals itself step by step. Knowing that makes it easier. You literally can't know what that next step will look like exactly. But you can sort of know what tomorrow looks like. That is all you need to worry about. Focus on right now.
Ok, I only sort of got to the end of that. I will try to write a little more tomorrow.Â
@bestVase7265 great, now even you are telling me that i shouldn't have skipped. why is everyone all of a sudden so unhappy with me staying home from school? you're telling me i shouldn't have skipped, my mother's saying it's all up to me and i need to handle things myself if i skip, my friend probably hates me for skipping again, and i'm here crying about my decision to skip school yesterday. everybody seems unhappy with me.
and no, i cant tell her why i was absent. that would be too weird. you see, both of us have a thing that we randomly stay home from school for reasons other than actually being unwell, but we never say why we were actually absent. yeah, she does it too and i very well caught her lying once. i mean, in school when we're talking, we're a bit more honest, but on whatsapp, we always lie to each other. i know she lies and i'm pretty sure she knows i lie, but we just let it be.
also, i understand why you say "I would avoid skipping school whenever possible at this point because you can do work during the free periods if studying at night is hard because you are exhausted." but i had a physics notebook submission for which i had way too much work to do. if i had to go to school yesterday, i've have had to stay up really late on thursday night. also, we can work during free periods only if the noise levels are under control. if everyone's screaming, playing and running around in the classroom, i cant get anything done.
i dunno about bed by midnight. this week, i managed to go to bed by 12:45 for four days (monday-thursday). last night i don't that what i thought i was doing but i was up till... i wont specify the time, it might make you disappointed, but i was up really late. yeah i know it was stupid but i guess that's just how i am.
and i cant get myself to do this boring old schoolwork. to be honest i cant get myself to do anything at all. i'm just watching youtube all day and wasting away my life. i was having some really bad thoughts when i woke up today so i stated watching youtube hoping that something would make me feel better and then i'd go do homework, but nothing truly helped so i kept and kept on watching all day and it's 6:31 pm already. i still feel horrible. the thoughts arent to bad right now but they're still there as always. i am fed up of this life. i just want to endd it.
"That means they literally don't really see what you look like or what your homework looks like." no way. they do see what i look like. i know they do. every time i try to tell myself that nobody really notices, i get proved wrong. so i wont tell that to myself anymore, it's a lie and people do notice.
"Overthinking means not doing just what your parents think you should in terms of the future." most kids i know just have no choice but to do what their parents want. they don't have any choice. i do, and my mother especially is really fine with whatever. my father wants me to do science but i don't care about his wishes and he's not really forcing me to do extra classes and stuff, he probably doesn't even know they exist. but yeah, having parents who give you this freedom and being a person who doesn't believe they'll make it to adulthood means i'm just wandering aimlessly hoping the end comes soon.
it is so close, except i don't have one thing i need for it. and i don't want to improvise and risk surviving it. i just want one thing. i don't know how i'll get it though. i wish i had used my opportunity while i had it. my father had bought some rope and left it lying around for a while but now he made something out of it so i cant use it anymore. i wish i used it when i could have.
i feel so... dead. like half dead. from watching so much youtube. and it's the worse. i either want to be fully dead or fully alive. not anything in between.
i tired drinking water to feel more alive. it wasn't helping. i drank down a while 1 litre of water in one go and i still feel dead. everything feels so dull and hopeless. i wanna go to sleep.
my father just lectured me on how i shouldn't be staying up late. last night he was out and came home really late. apparently when he was coming home, he saw that the lights were on in my room. my window faces the road and you can see from there if my lights are on. so when he was coming home at 1:45 am, he saw the lights on but by the time he actually got inside the house, i had turned the lights off. he was still calling me from outside my room door. i know i heard him and got scared but pretended to be asleep and didn't respond.
he's wondering how someone can fall asleep that quickly. he talked about it right after dinner in front of my mother. my mother's asking him "are you sure it was her room with the lights on? she wasn't supposed to be up that late." and my father is sure it was my window. he's not happy with me. and the tone he uses when scolding just makes me wanna cry. i'm just hoping that he forgets it sometime soon.
i am so mad at myself. i'm doing all the things i shouldn't be doing. staying home from school for invalid reasons, staying up late for no reason, wasting all day doing nothing because i have no motivation. i am such a horrible person. i hate myself. what the helll am i doing with my life? just wasting it away. and i feel like everyone around me hates me. everyone's disappointed with me. i am disappointed with myself. i hate being this disappointing burden on earth. i'm such a stupid disappointment. i just want to leave. please let me gooooo.
if there's one good thing i deserve, that's death. that's the best gift someone could ever give me.Â
i'm sorry i was so rude to you yesterday.
I am so sorry for not responding last night. I had two other people with some pretty bad medical issues on 7 Cups and it took me a while to respond to them.
I wasn't trying to make you feel guilty about skipping school or about staying up late in any way. I was more thinking about where you might feel happiest. I know that being home is a chore because of your parents and you just spent a long while there because you were so ill. I had a feeling being at school might make you feel more alive and active than being at home. It was the only reason that I urged it.
Missing school occasionally is okay. Staying up late occasionally is okay. You are ALWAYS ok. Yes, we all make mistakes that we regret. The key is that you can't change the past. You can only do better in the future. The worst thing to do is to beat yourself up. It is the emotional damage that you are causing yourself that makes me sad for you. You are a good person who struggles with motivation BECAUSE you have depression. You have to work hard to overcome that but I have never doubted that you can do it.
Really and truly, people are too self-absorbed to care what you look like overall. Do you really look closely at what other people are wearing? Can you remember from day to day? If someone does say something occasionally it is only to make them feel superior to you (which they aren't). They don't need that power over you.Â
It is really great actually that your parents don't care too much what your future career might be. I know having lots of choice feels scary, but there is only one mistake you can make (and I literally tell this to my own students) - doing what someone else tells you to do rather than what is in your heart. You may not know what you want right now, but you know what you don't want. That is half of the battle. You are going to figure it out.
Please don't do something in the next few days. I am very serious about this. I would be devastated. Please use the list of resources that I gave you. You need help. Death is no gift. It is a punishment that the world around you will experience.Â
If you continue to talk in this manner, I will have to report it. That will cut off all communication between us because people will look at our thread more closely.Â
@bestVase7265 are you just threatening me to get me to stop talking like this or are you seriously considering reporting me? well, whatever it is, i'm not sure if i want to talk to you anymore if i can't be free and talk "in this manner".
talking feels too risky now. and i don't want to risk it. i thought i was safe here and you'd be the rare person to stay by me no matter what. i thought i could talk freely without getting in trouble for it. it doesn't feel that way anymore. i'm sorry.
not talking and keeping everything to myself feels easier than talking and not "talking in that manner". those thoughts are my everyday thing. they never go away. and i don't know how to talk and not accidentally mention them. i'll need to be extra careful to not talk in that manner. it will need too much thinking. i'd rather not talk or vent. i'll find other ways to cope. maybe we can still talk occasionally but i dont want to vent or say much anymore.
i'm sorry if this hurts you. i know you have good intentions. but you reporting me and me getting in trouble with 7 cups rules again is not how i want things to end. and i doubt that i'll be able to talk in a way that makes you not report me. plus, i don't feel safe and comfortable here anymore with this new fear in mind. i'm sorry.
thank you so for being here for as long as you have been. i do really appreciate it. thank you for listening to me, for reading my stupid, long posts and for trying to help. thank you so very much. goodbye. (sorry this is all i have right now, i might come back to say more if something comes to my mind.)
I am trying to save your life. It is why I am still here. It is why I will always be here for you in that way.
If I can scare you into not making plans, then I will do that. You can talk about how upset you are, how miserable your parents make you, how scared you are about the future, your suicidal ideation, not sleeping, your self-harm. All of those are legitimate topics and I will not judge you at all.
But when you start talking about dates and methods then you have entered a danger zone where your life is at stake. That is no longer suicidal ideation then. There is only one line not to cross. It is where if someone came into my office at work and reported to me what you are saying that I would immediately either call an ambulance or walk them to the psychological clinic. I would not let them walk by themselves. When you start seriously planning then you need help I cannot provide because I am not a psychological professional. I am an ill person like you who has fought my way to the other side.
You cannot hurt my feelings by anything you say. You have nothing to apologize for.Â
On another post yesterday I was thanked for my support and someone said that over about the last decade (I have been on Cups that long) that I have almost 20,000 posts. None of them have been on group chats or fun conversation starter kinds of things. They have all been here in depression support. This is the first time that I have ever said I might report someone. That's how seriously I am taking this.
I will keep posting with you as long as I can and you want to. @exuberantBlackberry9105
@bestVase7265 i know you are. i really do. just that reporting me and stuff will only make it harder for you to save me.
sorry, but you cant scare me into not making plans. you can only scare me into not talking about them.
okay so i got it. you have a problem with dates and methods being mentioned. i understand. i think it might have more to do with methods because i have mentioned dates before and you never got so upset. but honestly, i've been in your "danger zone" for months now. i am still here, i'm existing, i'm alive. and i'm fine in the eyes of most people. danger zone is where i live now. where i have always been living for months. this is my normal. sometimes i step out of my normal into a safe zone, but no one lets me stay there for long, they just kick me into danger zone. this is my normal at this point. you don't need to worry so much, this is all normal and fine for me.
but i'm not doing anything about the thoughts right now. why're you so worried? and if you report me and i lose my account, what do you expect me to do all alone with no one to talk to? that'll only make it worse. and that's not how i want things to go.
woah a decade is a long time to be here. you've been here since 2014 like the very beginning of 7 cups? from a different account, i guess? this one says you've been here since march 2016. anyway, that's a lot of support provided. it's a lot of effort and dedication, and i appreciate that. but when you say "This is the first time that I have ever said I might report someone", what exactly are you implying? that nobody else has ever talked so much about thoughts? that i am the craziest person you have ever met? that i'm too difficult to deal with? what are you trying to tell me?
anyway, we dropped my mother and got home a bit ago. actually it's been an hour. yeah, i might sleep soon. i dunno what to do and how to feel. i hate life.
so much drama happened on monday. it still hurts. so much. apparently i took too long to get ready in the morning. and she was so mad. told me every hurtful thing she could. all day long. i'm an animal. i am the stupidest being on earth. i waste all my time in the bathroom. i am good for nothing. she cant bear living with me anymore. i should go live alone somewhere where i can comfortably spend all day in the bathroom. i am not studying at all. i should just leave school and find work and get out of the house when my father does. she can't take me anymore. i waste all my time and everyone else's time.
those are all her words. not even all of them. they are killing me. i try to tell myself that she's just overreacting and she was just looking for an excuse to get her pain out on me. i try telling myself that it's not my fault she made such a mess of a not that big mistake. i did the same thing on saturday and it was fine then but it's somehow not fine now, which doesnt make sense.
but it's not helping. it still hurts. and i cant help but feel she's right. because you know what? i am stupid. i do waste all my time. i dont study as much as i should. i waste everyone else's time. i am too difficult to deal with. i'm too hard to live with. i am good for nothing. i am just a stupid pathetic animal who deserves the gift of death.
wow it's 7:14 am already. ive been up since 3 am. came home at 5:10 am. and been on the phone for two hours to not be able to do anything useful. i'm such an idiot. yeah bye i'm wasting too much time. sorry for the long post. sorry for wasting your time. just, i don't know how to hold it all it. i had to get it out. you dont need to reply.
hard, harder, hardest. the first time my mother was gone, it was hard. the second time it was harder. this time it's the hardest. i cant take it without my mother. things are just so bad. my father's being horrible. i just hate him. as much as i hate my mother, i want her back.
everything hurts so much. i didn't sleep. i feel so weak and everything just hurts. eveything's a mess, my whole life's a mess. i don't know where to start and what to do. please help. i'm crying. i want to scream i feel so awful. everything my father is telling me, the way he's talking to me, the way he's making fun of me, it's all just horrible.
i have so much to do. chores, schoolwork, everything. and i don't know what to do. i have no every or motivation to do anything i just want to escape this h3ll of a world. i feel like i'm wasting a wonderful opportunity.Â
it's all so overwhelming. i try to feel better but my father brings me down. i hate him i hate him so much. words hurt. the tone he uses hurt. plus, my mother keeps calling and giving me instructions on who to do. "don't stay up to late." "text me good night." "don't fight with your father." this that blab blah blah. i just hate my parents so much.
here my father is a whole another disaster. he was about to jokingly hit me with a broom because i was rude and he had a broom in his hand. even if it was a joke, it hurts. then i forgot to put in a new garbage bag in the durtbin and he's calling me for that and when i do it he says "how are you going to run a household without your mother." the answer is, i wont. i just wont. i wont be here till i have to manage a household by myself. and he's trying to say that i'm too dependant on her. well, i am. what do i do about it?
then my mother left her clothes lying on her bed and i didn't do anything about them so he came to tell me that i should take them and put it in the laundry basket or fold them up nicely. like stop telling me what to do all the time, i know these things. i was going to put them in the laundry basket he didn't have to say it like that. i know when i write the things he says it looks fine, but the tone. it is what hurts.Â
i wasted all day on my phone. my screen time has been basically every minute i've spent in my room. i haven't even opened my books today. haven't done my cups work. haven't slept. WHAT THE H3LL IS WRONG WITH ME WHY AM I DOING THIS? i hate myself. and what have i done to be born to such parents? i hate them. i hate them so much.
i have exams so soon and i haven't even started studying. help.
oh and i had a spider in my bathroom. i scared of spiders. so i called him to come and get rid of it. gave me a whole lectour on how i should overcome my fears and just grow up. you know what? i don't want to grow up. i don't want to grow 1 day older than i am now.
i went to sleep at 4 pm and woke up at 5 something to my father loudly arguing on the phone with someone. it made me so mad. i got up and closed my door, came back to bed and cried. i had completely lost control and cried so loudly and he never even heard me cry. not that i want him to hear me and them come and give me a stupid lecture. but like wow.
and i wish i had school tomorrow. i am so stick of sitting at home i hate it i just wanna go out of the house for a bit but that's not like myself to want to go out, so i cant tell anyone.
i'm sorry i'm taking this much much i'm hurting so much and i cant hold it in anymore. i have officially gone insane. i'm so stupid. okay, i cant tell you the rest you'll be mad.
I have seen all of your messages. Because these are the two busiest days of the year in terms of my own family, I am going to have to wait to answer until tomorrow.Â
I do care deeply that you are in pain. You have strength and can survive until your mom returns. Turn off your father and try to ignore his comments. Just sit in your room as much as you can and study. You control your emotions, not him.Â
Focus on meditating when he gets you upset. Any studying is better than no studying. Deep breaths. You can do this.Â
@bestVase7265 that's okay. sorry i have been talking so much. how are you anyway? how did your busiest days go? i am curious about how christmas is actually celebrated.Â
well, thanks but i dunno if i'll survive. i mean i dunno why to stay.
"Just sit in your room as much as you can and study." that is exactly what i am unable to do. i have chores to do. it's 12 pm and i have done nothing so far. not even made my bed. i hate myself. not opened any books since tuesday. this is horrible. how can i go so long without any studying at all?
now i have to go and do so many chores. make my bed. clean the kitchen. fold the laundry. and the bigges of them all, mop the whole house. i dunno when i'll shower and have lunch after that. i dunno when i'll do homework. i dunno when i'll study. my whole life is a mess. i have so much to do and so little time. i have only one more week left of winter break. i am wasting away all my time and i feel awful about it.
and my father is not being nice. and says i am backanswering a lot.
and sleep is such a struggle. i felt sleepy last night but when i went to bed, it was gone. i tossed and turned all night. my bed feels so uncomfortable. then my mother called at 8 am. i didnt pick up. she called again and i picked up. i screamed "what?!" and shes like "good morning. have you gotten up?" i shouted "bye" and hung up. like it's 8 am. she knows i dont wake up until 8:30 am. why call and disturb my sleep? anyway at 8:30 i dismissed the alarm and slept on. my father didnt wake me up. i got up at 9:30 today.
i have too much going on in my mind to be able to do anything. i feel awful. so many chores and everything. i hate it.
and i hate the weather lately. it's so cloudy, warm and gloomy. where on earth did the cold go? come on, it's december i want cold. or rain. not just some stupid clouds.
i noticed a pattern. last friday was a great day. saturday was awful. sunday was good. monday couldn't have been worse. tuesday was okay. wednesday was horrible. today was relatively fine. what the heck is going on? if the pattern continues, tomorrow will be bad. that terrifies me. but my mother's coming home tomorrow. so that's in a way really good.
and yeah, i stayed alive through these days. i don't feel too bad now so wont do anything tonight and wont have time tomorrow before she comes. i stayed because you and someone else wanted me. don't make me regret staying. every time i stop myself from doing something, i regret it later.
Thank you for staying. I know that the last few days have been god-awful for you. Some days with depression staying alive can be your only goal You achieved that. Things are going to eventually get better. The world still needs you.
I am so sorry that your parents have seemed so horrible lately, especially in their words. You do deserve people who are much more supportive but sometimes you are stuck working with what you have. Remember the more that you ignore them then the less power they have over you.
One of the main reasons that you aren't working right now on schoolwork is that your brain wants to punish you. If you continue not to work it just continues the vicious cycle of letting you telling yourself that you are a bad person. But you aren't. So you take a deep breath and say you will work 15 minutes. Then you begin breaking the cycle. 15 minutes here and 15 minutes there don't sound like much but they are huge. Those 15 minutes begins to shut the bad stuff off.
I am still in busy mode for most of the week, but things have been fairly smooth. My oldest son moved back home on Monday, we had a celebration dinner and church service on Tuesday, we opened up gifts and drove the 2 and a half hours to see my parents on Wednesday, and we saw my parents again to celebrate with them today and then drove all the way back. Tomorrow we see my husband's family.
My guess is that you are having okay days followed by bad ones because your brain is in roller coaster or riding the waves mode. At least that is what it always felt like to me. Then I began to get calmer waves.
May your wave be calm tomorrow as your mom comes back. You can do this. @exuberantBlackberry9105
@bestVase7265 i'm regretting it already. i dont wantt to be here anymore. i just want peace and i don't think that exists on earth. i want to rest in peace. and rest doesn't exist on earth. rest, as in sleep, is just so hard. i cant sleep properly. i don't remember the last time i felt comfortable in my bed. my bed just feels so uncomfy. i think my mattress is to blame. it's so hard. yeah, the new one, it's not what i wanted. yes, my bed looks better with it, but it's still hard. and ai hate it. i want a soft, comfortable bed i can actually sleep well in.
i couldn't even work for 15 minutes. i opened my book and wrote a few words and then i just got fed up. some random thoughts came into my mind and i got carried away with them. then i'm crying and i cant stop. i'm still crying.
good to hear that things have been fairly smooth. i hope everything goes well.
today isn't really very calm. my mother's home and that's good but my father's still annoying me. he's constantly mocking me and my mother. i hate it. i got into a bit of a fight (physically) with him because i was trying to stand up for my mother. at first i thought i was fine but now a few hours later, it hurts so much.
my mother's calling for dinner now. i'm still crying. i dunno how to stop. i don't want to eat. i'm so full already.
another day wasted.