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exuberantBlackberry9105 November 5th, 2023

Hi @bestVase7265 This is a place where we can chat with each other. Thank you so much for supporting me, Vase. I'm very grateful and I'm happy to continue our previous conversion here. 😊

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bestVase7265 August 30th

My good moment today was a very large flock of white ibises as I arrived on campus this morning. Usually I might see a dozen or so but this was quadruple that. Nature reminds me what is important.

Your body needed the sleep and the bus was a good spot to do it. That's actually pretty important.

You may not have much energy now, but you could have more in the morning. Overworking sometimes means a need for over resting.

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP August 30th

@bestVase7265 nah, i went to bed super late last night because the evening nap made me so sleepy for the rest of the evening. i didnt fully wake up until after dinner, meaning my body actually woke up at 10 pm and then i got to work and continued till 2 am. i have been okayish today (in the sense not struggling to stay awake) because i got lots of sleep on wednesday night i guess. but no energy.

i know i have to go to the dentist today and yet i have so much homework planned. i dunno if i'll get it done and be able to go to bed early too, but i hope i am. if i am fast i should be able to get it done. sadly school tomorrow and i'll go because my attendance is bad but my friend wont come so it will be a lonely quiet day.

okay, i need to stop sharing like this every day. now i will. you'll hear from me again when i can actually respond to you properly, i feel so guilty for not doing it. so i'm here, don't worry, but i wont share here again unless i absolutely need to. take care. 💙💙

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bestVase7265 September 1st

My good moment for today was seeing two of my sons, both a little unexpectedly. My oldest son was feeling pretty overworked at the moment so he came in to just have a new spot to be for a few hours. I hadn't seen him in a week or so so it was nice to just be in the same house with him as he worked. His next few months are going to be crazy busy.

You can write whenever you want. Your shorter messages work just fine. You seem to feel less stressed out when you are writing them. Doing "okay" is actually quite a success. You feel like you are still overworked, but you are managing just a bit better. So if you can, be happy with okay for the time being.

Sorry that I missed last night - diarrhea kept me from doing much. Tonight the 7 cups site is a bit wonky, so I am hoping that this will post.

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 1st

@bestVase7265 i'm not doing "okay" anymore. i'm going crazy. feeling like leaving the planet. there's so much going on and so much to do, and i can't take it anymore.

what our neighbours did last night makes me so scared. i feel like i cant be free even at home. like i cant just do what i want. this isn't a safe place to be in. people can see me and hear me from my room. people can see me all the time. maybe i should just go to bed earlier so that when the neighhours call at 2:15 am claiming that there's some noise coming from our home, i don't think it's me. i don't recall making any noise at that time, but since i was awake, you never know. i just want to disappearr. or go into a place where i can just be alone from the world and have no one see me or hear me.

there's someone on cups who i've known for more than a year and we've become really close friends and now their account has completely disappeared last night and i'm so scared and worried about what happened and i wonder if they're still here. i can't keep going without them. i'll wait and see for a few more days maybe, and then i might just go. missing them so bad already. usually when my cups friends disappear, the first few days are not that bad and it keeps getting worse. if it is this bad the first day after their account disappearing, it'll get unbearably bad very soon.

oh yeah, and what the heck is wrong with saturdays? why am i always so lazy on saturdays and can never get work done? ugh so i came here again, i really had to. i'm sorry. now the guilt of not replying to you is killing me. i don't know what to do anymore. i want to go to sleep, but it;s just 4:30 pm. and i guess i'll end up staying up late tonight because of all the work i need to complete. wish i could just leave and never have to deal with this mess of a life.

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bestVase7265 September 2nd

I am going to start out again with the good that I saw today. Today it was our cat who fell asleep on the exams that I was supposed to be grading. She was totally upside down and everything. I decided that meant I was to take a break. I still got done what I needed to, but on a different time schedule.

Halt! Stop feeling guilty about me. You don't have to answer my every question. They are just things for you to think about, not necessarily respond to. As I pointed out last night, these shorter messages are better than the longer ones. You are overall staying calmer in them because you don't have us much space or time to write. Doing your homework, etc. is quite important anyway. Don't make me part of your stress.

Walls are always going to be thin and neighbors are going to hear things. They aren't trying to listen in or watch you. Perhaps it is a sign that you shouldn't be awake at 2:15 am, but nothing else. Unluckily there is no way to be completely alone in the world. People inhabit it and most people who do are good people. I know that it is hard to see that. 

As far as your 7 cups friend goes, you need to give it more time before you start to panic. Things can go wrong with computers and accounts. They can easily come back. If they are gone, then you decide your response. You can decide it is horrible or you can decide that you will survive it even though you are mourning the loss.

Saturdays are particularly hard because you have more time to think and rest. You do need the rest but the too much thinking part can make things harder. Take mini breaks as you work, but do try to work rather than just saying "I will work an hour from now." How are you doing on setting timers? They might be particularly helpful for Saturdays.

exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 2nd

WHY? just WHY? what the heck's the point of this all? everything is so very pointless! i dont want to try anymore.

im crying... i dont want to do anything but sleep and hope i have a heart attack or something. because WHY NOT me? why cant i die when so many people die everyday?

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 2nd

what's the point of everything?

what's the point of trying to feel better when i know it'll all come crashing down in the end? what's the point of trying not to pull our hair when i know that as soon as i've gone a couple of days without it, i'm gonna do it again and i'll pull out A LOT?

what's the point of studying? what's the point of doing homework? why, just why do it? what am i even gonna do with what i'm studying now? how's it gonna help me? what's the point of going to school? you want me to work for 25 mins and just do something? fine, i'll try. but what's the point?

what's the point of waking up? WHAT'S THE POINT OF LIVING??? what are we here for? WHY live? WHY?

why try anymore? why fight? fight for what? why fight when i'm just to tired? why try to find reasons to live when i really don't what to? WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRYING??? just let me go...

speaking or reasons to live, remember the time when i said i'd stay around for all the changes i want in my room? i'm sorry, that doesn't make sense anymore because everything is pointless. i can try and wait for a new mattress hoping it'll bring me some comfort and feeling of safety, but comfort and safety doesn't exist anymore, so i don't know.

my friend is back, and it makes me feel so happy to see them again. you were right, sometimes things go wrong with accounts. i was just terrified because everytime before that someone lost their account like this, they never came back. i've lost many cups friends like this before and i miss them a lot. but yeah, this friend is back and i can stick around for them. but the questions in my mind wont go away.

i slept for 2 hrs in the evening today. my mother thinks i slept more but i didn't because i was crying my eyes out and then came on my phone because i couldn't sleep. and not it's 1:20 am. am sleepy. but i haven't studied for a french test we have tomorrow and i haven't done my maths homework. so i'll do that now i guess. i don't see why i really need to do it, but i guess i don't have a choice so i'll do it. i woke up at 8:15 pm and since just had dinner and been watching youtube. youtube helped a fair bit today.

(oh, and know that shorter messages don't mean i'm less stressed. i try to keep it short for other reasons and i failed today.)

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 2nd

i tried but couldn't do anything. it's 1:46 am. i'll just go sleep. and hope the "score well without studying" luck comes to me again. i guess i'll try to get work done tomorrow. but WHY?

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bestVase7265 September 3rd

I am going to start with the good again. It would be REALLY helpful for you to do the same. So tonight for dinner we went out to a restaurant and I had a lovely eggplant and mushroom sandwich. It was nice and crispy.

So what is the point of it all? It begins with the eggplant and mushroom sandwich. I know that sounds silly, but your brain right now is having you think too much about the past and the future and too little about the present. You aren't looking to enjoy days or weeks on end. That rarely happens for anyone because there is always the occasional bad. What you can get are moments of good that you can build a life around.

Look for a moment at the point about your friend being back on 7 Cups. Your brain made that future without your friend feel like a giant catastrophe. It ended up being perfectly fine. But you wasted tons of precious energy worrying.

You are spending too much time worrying and it is leading you to another breaking point. You wonder why should I struggle to stop that breaking point from happening? Because if it does happen and you do break or attempt something lots of even worse stuff could follow. Nearly 60% of people who attempt something fail. What happens then? They end up in a psych ward hospitalized at a bare minimum. So your parents find out, your school finds out, everyone knows. You can also end up with serious physical injuries that are lifelong.

You need to sleep more at night. You have developed some really bad sleep habits and they are ruining your ability to think clearly about all of this. DO NOT SLEEP DURING THE DAY. Keep yourself awake at all costs. Do homework standing up if you need to. 

I am not in any way minimizing your pain. I know that you are fighting hard. But do keep fighting. The earth needs you here. Keep looking for the good. It is right there in front of you. I will NEVER let you go. You can't either.

But you also don't have to do this so much alone. Try this website: teenlineonline.org or this one Befrienders India

 

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 3rd

@bestVase7265 fine. you want me to tell you a good moment? 24 hours works, right? it's 6:47 pm right now, so last night seeing my cups friend again would be my good moment. been feeing awful today, physically mostly and emotionally and mentally just exhausted. physically exhausted too, and i seem to have caught a cold, and have had a headache since morning today.

i don't get what you mean by "What you can get are moments of good that you can build a life around." please help. i don't understand what's the point. particularly, what's the point of studying? what am i gonna do with all this studying? and also, i don't understand what's the point of trying when the outcome is never good enough?

my eyebrows are making me feel horrible. every time i go a few days without pulling, i do it again and do it a lot. i'm so ugly now. and my skin is not doing well either. and my hair is falling out.

don't tell me i wasted tons of precious energy worrying about my friend. you dont understand how much they mean to me and you don't know what all is going on in their life that makes me worried. is it not natural to worry about someone who you care about?

wait, what did i say to make you start talking about suicide? going to sleep and hoping to have a heart attack, or questioning the point of everything is not the same as wanting to attempt. i never said i'm suicidal, i just want to d!e but i cant do it to myself because i need to stay for my friend. i guess you missed that part of my message that said "but yeah, this friend is back and i can stick around for them."

oh, and i don't think everyone who attempts and it doesn't work ends up hospitalised.

"So your parents find out, your school finds out, everyone knows. You can also end up with serious physical injuries that are lifelong." yeah, true, i guess. that's why i'm not doing anything just yet unless i come up with something that's more likely to work. i cant deal with the embarrassment of everyone around me knowing i just tried to k!ll myself. but how would my school know though? my parents and relatives and neighbours will, but how will the school find out?

yup, my sleep habits suck. what am i supposed to do about them? "DO NOT SLEEP DURING THE DAY. Keep yourself awake at all costs. Do homework standing up if you need to." oh wow, why do you say that? why not sleep during the day when i'm so tired and just cant take it?

because when i'm that sleepy, i cant do homework no matter what. so how is just sitting and doing stuff like watching youtube, cupsing, or hair pulling better than being in bed trying to sleep while strangling my pillow to death?

oh and i cant stand and do my homework. no way. my handwriting would be awful. plus, when i'm this sleep deprived, my arms and legs become so weak. they hurt and i cant stand for too long or write much.

"The earth needs you here." you keep saying that. tell me why. i know only one person who needs me, the earth does not.

wait, what?! what are those links for? what made you think it was a good idea to share them with me? what do you want me to do with them?

sorry i'm being so rude. just not feeling good and am half asleep. it's 7:33 pm and i have so much homework i need to do and i cant get myself to start. couldn't sleep in the evening either because i washed my hair today and my mother would never let me sleep with wet hair. i dunno what to do. i cant do homework while knowing i need to do it, i want to sleep but i cant sleep until i do my homework. i have no motivation for anything. i guess i'll go watch youtube and cry a bit perhaps to make myself feel a little less depressed and i guess make myself wake up. and then get to homework. i hope it works and i can go to bed early today. am highly unlikely to finish all my homework though. will try and catch up on thursday, it's a holiday.

half yearly exams start on 19th sept. help! i haven't even started studying or anything. they're all 80 mark exams. first maths, then science, then english, french and sst. what do i do if i just cant do homework or study right now?

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 3rd

wow i wrote such a long message again. i'm sorry.

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 3rd

it's 12:25 am. i completed today's geography notebook work because we have submission tomorrow and the teacher gets really mad if we don't submit notebooks on time. but i haven't done my maths and physics homework and i haven't done my mapwork for geography.

but i'm going to bed now. i would have gone a lot earlier but i couldn't because my mother needed my bathroom for some hot water and she took ages for that. i'd have been asleep by now if she hadn't bothered me like that. that's being so annoying and rude. the stupid idiotic neighbours are really making her go mad and she's getting the frustration out on me.

i dunno what the heck is wrong with me but i just suddenly started crying right now so my sleep will be great, right? anyway, i brushed my teeth now, i skipped it last night because it doesn't make sense to brush your teeth at 2 am and then again at 6 am, so i skipped the 2 am brushing. probably a bad idea with braces, right? all the food is getting stuck in there, i hate it. also happened to realise that you cant bite your nails with braces, lol. because the teeth hurt if you try to do it. not that i bite my nails anymore, but i do do it sometimes. definitely not like i used to though. when i was younger i never needed a nail cutter because i bit them all off.

okay, good night. i'll go wash my face and stuff, tie my hair, change and go to bed. 

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 3rd

woah this is the third, technically fouth time i'm posting today and i'm sorry. just forgot to say something.

thursday is a holiday so i was thinking yesterday after school i cups a bit and do some homework until dinner and go to bed immediately after that to try and catch up on some sleep. then on thursday i guess i can try to do my work? is that okay? i just want one day to kinda relax and not expect myself to do much homework.

oh yeah and i gotta wish happy teachers day to my 7th grade english teacher tomorrow. i miss her. usually i also send some teachers an email on teachers day. i dunno if i can do that this year, i'll ask my mother if she wants me to do it.

great now it's 12:38 am i should go.

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bestVase7265 September 4th

I know that you need a place to rant. But this time I am not going to answer the rant. I will admit that it hurts and it made me feel like I was being yelled at. I know that you don't like to hear what I have to say because it involves the hard work of rethinking and reimagining the beautiful life you could have ahead if you let yourself dream. But you will only let yourself live in pain at the moment. Most days I am okay with that. Tonight I am not. 

I answer every night and am taking 15-30 minutes every day to do so. So I am tired.

I will be back tomorrow and will answer anything that you have posted since then. But I am going to ignore the long tirade.

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 4th

@bestVase7265 i am so sorry i hurt you and make you feel like i'm yelling at you. i'm just so sorry. i didnt mean to hurt you, but i just reread my messages from yesterday and realise i was really horrible to you yesterday. i shouldn't have talk to you like that. i'm sorry i did it. i'm sorry i sent my messages without thinking twice.

please don't worry about answering me though, you never have to do it. you can absolutely take a break from responding to me or talking to me. dealing with me is no fun and i know that. you don't need to do it, especially not when you're tired. you're just extraordinarily kind to be putting up with me for so long.

i know you want me to work hard, but i'm so lazy, you know? and i've just been feeling like trying to feel better is pointless because i come crashing down so bad every time i start doing a little better. i wonder why i've been having such big ups and downs lately. i feel fine for a few minutes and suddenly i'm all hopeless and thinking of giving up. any idea why this is? every time i start doing well with hair pulling, it soon gets bad again...

and i've also been wondering why i really need to study all this and do all that i need to do... i need to do it so i try to do it, but i dont get why i need to do it. i hope you understand.

i don't like to let myself dream because i know i'll probably never get there. but if you just really want me to, i guess i dream of a point in time where i'm on top on all my schoolwork, as in having all my work complete and also having been studying and reading the chapters at home. a point in time when i'm not so stressed. a time when my eyebrows and lashes are fully grown and normal looking and my hair isn't falling out like crazy. a time when i'm going to bed by 11:30 pm before every school day and 12 am before every non-school day. i dream of a time when my body actually feels okay and rested with enough sleep and good sleep and regular exercise. i time when i reach the level of flexibility i want to reach.

i don't ever expect a time when i'm not depressed at all or when i'm just happy overall, but i want a time when i'm able to still manage everything and do everything i need to do, help around cups, etc. but i will never get there, so why think of it?

by the way, i've had a relatively good day at school today, so that's nice and it did help me feel quite good. the best part is, all the homework that i didn't do last night all worked out perfectly fine. i could do it in school.

i've mostly just been cupsing today and cleaning my room after coming home. i haven't done any homework, but i guess it's fine? it's 10:45 pm right now and i'm sleepy. since tomorrow is a holiday, i'll just go to bed now without forcing my sleepy self to do any more. i can get up at 8 tomorrow because i have no school. so this should be a lot of sleep and i hope it helps me get work done tomorrow. today i did my cups things hoping to be able to focus completely on studying tomorrow.

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bestVase7265 September 5th

Ok, starting from the good again from me. I am finally done with all of the grading for my mini-semester and am starting to feel a little more on track with all of my work for the regular semester which started on Monday. Being less behind that I thought is helpful. Things will get done if I stop looking down at the pile of work.

You didn't do any serious damage to my self esteem or anything. I just needed a night off and to take a mini pause. I do want our conversations to be a place where you can do a bit of venting. That is helpful for you. We just also want to move you in a better direction too.

I have never said to myself that dealing with you is no fun. We all have good days and bad days. You do too. The messages where I can see you starting to grow and become stronger are precious to me. I know that our conversations are helping you on a deeper level.

I have also never thought of you as lazy or as someone who isn't working with every once of strength that they have. I admire how you try to handle all that school work. What I'd like to see is you also putting effort into reframing how you see that homework pile and your ability to handle it. That takes effort too. You put so much energy into panicking and then needing to recover from that panic that there isn't quite enough space for you to work on the path out of it.

What that panic is causing is wide mood swings. That is typical for mental illness. It is why so many people use a combination of medication and talk therapy to find their way to a better spot. Your brain chemicals have become overreactive and you are having trouble slowing them down to breathe a bit.

I do understand that schoolwork seems pointless. In fact I was having a bit of that kind of a conversation with my 18-19 year old students today. The work that you are doing now is kind of a really boring foundation of knowledge that you need to have in order to complete your education. About a year or so for now (as my students described it to me) that foundation begins to expand and become more interesting because people start giving you more freedom to think for yourself rather than memorizing quite so much. Then the education starts to feel more valuable. Does that make sense?

I know how scared you are to dream and to start to open yourself up to the chance of thinking for yourself. Your brain is falsely arguing that you dreaming can only lead to disappointment. But your brain is wrong here.

Yes, not all dreams are going to come true. But if you stop dreaming then you stop living. I don't mean in a physical sense. It is more of an emotional death. I so want to get you off of that path. So take the scary path and dream a little. It is better than being in the state that you are in. Life can only become less pointless if you dream. All of this can lead you away from the self harm that I know is quite painful for you.

Go beyond just thinking in terms of a dream of completing your homework. Allow yourself to think a little more broadly. This isn't an overnight thing. You do it slowly. Start by focusing on the fact that today felt more okay. What made it feel that way?

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 5th

@bestVase7265 let me for once reply to you properly today. unfortunately it might be a really long post since there's a lot i'd like to share, but i'm not angry or anything at the moment, so i hope i don't become rude or hurtful.

i got an unbelievable lot of sleep last night. i went bed at about 11:42 pm and fell asleep pretty soon. and i expected to have to awaken at 8 am, but since the maid took a leave today, my mother woke me up at 8:30 am instead. that's 8 hours 45 minutes of sleep, and the most sleep i have ever gotten in one night in ages. i feel good about this.

but i know this sleep is not gonna have any immediate effects whatsoever, it's 10:46 am right now and i feel tired and sleepy now, and my head hurts too. i'm trying to not let that disappoint me, because this is what happens every time when i get enough sleep. the energy only comes in later in the day and the next day. so i hope this sleep helps me today evening and tomorrow. right now since i don't feel well, i'm trying to not force myself to study and doing other things like responding to you instead so i can focus on studying in the evening when i'm not so sleepy.

somehow though when i sleep long enough, never have a dreamless night and that's something i want. any idea why this happens? i don't like dreams. last night it was a really dramatic and complicated dream, something based on suicide and board exams results. strange, i know.

anyway, coming to your message, i am glad you feel on track with your work. that's surely a wonderful feeling. i hope you can continue to stay on track.

are you sure i didn't seriously hurt you? i feel like i did. anyway, you can always take a break whenever you need. thank you for letting me vent here, venting does help me a lot.

i am not a fun person to deal with, and i know it, okay? some of my messages could be nice for you to read but a lot of them hurt too, right? yes, our convos help me a lot, but the way i talk and the things i say can never be fun for you to deal with.

oh dear, you have never thought of me as lazy? but i am lazy. i try to handle the schoolwork because i don't have any choice there. reframing how i see my homework and my ability to handle it, will probably take a lot more effort, and it's not like i need to do it, i can not do it and still exist, if you know what i mean. i do guess i panic too much. how exactly do i reframe how i see my homework and my ability to handle it, though?

the mood swings really suck. they make me feel like it's pointless trying to feel better. i kinda miss the time when my mood was a constant bearable low. my predictable and continuous low mood but not too low mood was easier to deal with than it is to deal with constant changes. the feeling really good times are wonderful and after than if it came down to a bearable low, i'd be fine. but it gets so unbearably low sometimes and i don't like it at all.

mm hmm. what you say about schoolwork does make sense. why does the foundation need to be so boring though? and what exactly does it mean to complete your education? also, i cant believe i'm asking this as a "good" student who people see as studious, but why is education really important other than needed it to get work? i might be studying, but what for?

also, you say that later the foundation becomes more interesting because people start getting more freedom to think for themselves rather than memorizing quite so much. does that really apply to all subjects?

"But if you stop dreaming then you stop living. I don't mean in a physical sense. It is more of an emotional death. Life can only become less pointless if you dream." i think you're right. thank you for making me realise that.

hmm dream more than just in terms of completing homework? yeah, i think that would be being less stressed, meaning my skin and hair look better. that in turn would make me feel better about myself. and i also wanna have my eyebrows and lashed grow out to be completely normal, making me feel better about myself. i want to have a normal sleep schedule of 6.5 hours on weekdays and 8 hours on weekends. and i want to be more flexible, mainly front split and side split. and of course continuing to help around cups like i currently am (helping out makes me feel good about myself, did you know i joined the peer appreciation team as a smile spreader?)

oh you asking about what made me feel a little more okay yesterday? school was pretty good. in the maths period, instead of teaching, for the first time ever, the teacher let us sit and complete our work, so i sat and did the previous day's homework that i hadn't done. while i was doing it, he looked at my notebook and said that my notebook is really neat and systematic. i mean, it always has been this way, but nobody has said it in a while and it helps a lot to hear. the teacher also saw me during the annual day dance practice as i sat and did some maths homework when it wasn't my time to dance, and he gave me a wonderful smile. i think he was really happy that i was working on his subject when i could just sit and do nothing. he really brightened up my day yesterday. and some other teeny tiny things did too, but mostly it was just this.

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 5th

i know this is quite off-topic, but i want to discuss subjects a little and share some recent discoveries i've made:

something i've realised that at least for now, physics is about memorisation and application, same for chemistry. biology is all about memorisation, same for geography, economics, and french. for history and political science, it seems to me that understanding would be great but just memorisation is perfectly good for exams and for exams only understanding without memorisation will get you to the same spot. maths is all about practice. and english is about understanding because memorisation can only get you so far in that.

i've come to this realise because my friend in school is great when it comes to memorisation. she can remember the textbook almost word for word and write all of that in the exam - that explains her good marks in biology, geography, economics, and french. and history and political science too because memorisation is more than sufficient for that with he kind of questions we get (i really wish we had more understanding-based questions, that would make it easier for me as i can write in my work words without having to recall what the book says).

anyway, and she's able to do the application questions in physics and chemisty too - explaining her good marks in those subjects. she also practices a lot of maths - so great marks in maths. but when it comes to english, she just cant do it. memorisation helps us for the literature section, but for comprehension, writing and grammar, it's not easy for her.

another thing that has come to my mind is that when it's only memorisation required for something it's mostly a straightforward matter. and for when understanding would be nice but memorisation works fine too for now, it's more or less straightforward for now when it comes to exams at least. maths is not about memorisation, but it's about knowing that certain things happen this way and just practising and calculating things. but for something like english where you actually need the ability to understand, it is not at all straightforward.

last week when my mother was explaining some physics stuff to me, i don't remember the exact whole conversation we had, but something i said made her say "you just don't like straightforward things." and i'm like "what? what do you mean?" and she says "you like things like photography where you see something different and i see it differently. you like english, where there's so much interpretation, imagination and creativity required".

and i think my mother is really right over there. i might still like science in a way, but i definitely don't like it the way i like english and actually enjoy doing my english homework. i might still be good at science, but i feel like that's nothing special because anyone can do that with just a little memorisation. but that's not enough for english, you need to want to understand the subject. and my mother says i'm creative and imaginative, but i don't really think i am. she says that i write really well, but my writing feels ordinary to me. i don't understand how i get my marks in the writing section in exams, like what makes my writing better than or different from that of other students?

i remember for almost all of 7th grade, i got full marks for every paragraph, story, letter, or notice writing or diary entry in the exams, but i don't understand how. i only lost marks in the final exam because i didn't get enough time to complete the writing so i left it halfway through.

don't even ask me about 8th grade, the teacher was horrible and had already decided that she would never let anybody get good marks for writing and that really saddened me a lot. she even admitted that she doesn't like giving marks for writing. anyway, happy to have the teacher out of my life now.

this year in one exam we've had so far, i got 4.5/5 in a diary writing. i just don't understand how. and the half mark i lost too was only because i wrote my name at the end where i should have written the name of the person i was imagining myself to be for the diary entry.

i asked my mother how she thinks i get these marks and she says it's because i can write neatly in the correct order of events and because i can use words to make my writing less boring and express myself well. and because apparently i'm imaginative according to her. honestly, i am not, i am just good at putting myself into someone's shoes so when we have questions like "imagine you are so and so and write a letter/paragraph/story/diary entry about how you..." i can do that well.

and with how i write here in such an extra long, boring and messy way with no proper order, how could i possibly write in an interesting, neat way in exams? i cant! plus, know that i always exceed the word limit, no exceptions. so how i really get the marks is the biggest mystery in my life that i'd love to solve but i cant.

anyway, all this straightforward-ness conversation and stuff really made me realise i don't like science as much. it's so straightforward and based on memory. and there's a lot of pressure and competition in it too. so when it comes to choosing between science, arts and commerce in 11th grade, certainly i don't want science. i want arts and room for interpretation and thought.

i looked up that the compulsory subjects for 11th grade arts stream are english, history, political science and geography, along with some optional subjects. surely i can manage the memorisation part for geography if i love english the way i do, and i'm quite okay with history and political science too. (i mean it's interesting when it comes to understanding how the things we have now actually came about but i don't like the memorisation part of the exact events that occurred, both for history and pol science.)

because for the science stream the subjects are physics, chemistry, maths/biology (you have to choose either one, i believe) and english, and optional subjects. i mean english is here too but clearly the focus wont be on it and will more more on the stress of physics, chem and bio/maths. and i am definitely not going with maths, so yeah.

so i guess i just decided what i wanna take after 10th grade. the question is, what do i say when people ask? do i straight up say arts or do i continue to say "yet to decide"? and also, what exactly can i do after choosing arts? is that a decision for later?

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bestVase7265 September 6th

Starting off again with the good today. A few hours ago, I lost all of my saved bookmarks and passwords. At first I panicked because I thought that I wouldn't be able to get on 7 Cups or anything else. But I had enough of a record that I could retrace my steps. I still lost a great deal, but I decided restarting things probably wasn't so bad. I had bookmarked a bunch of stuff that I didn't need. Creating less clutter and starting from scratch can be a good thing.

I am glad that you had such a triumph in terms of sleep! It helps more than anything else. Keep trying to find ways to get that amount and studying/life in general is going to be better. It seems backwards but you become a better student when you don't stay up late studying. Keep trying to go to bed early.

I meant it when I said that your writing is just fine and didn't do any serious damage. You are perfectly fine to chat with. I read the beginning of your message and smiled because I knew you had enough sleep. So smiling means you aren't making me unhappy all the time when I read your posts. Really and truly.

I am also not going to consider you lazy either. Always remember that people see you differently than you see yourself and sometimes they may be right (not always of course). Putting permanent labels on yourself (I know this in part is due to your mom) doesn't help. It just makes everything feel too inevitable and permanent. Nothing is. You have the opportunity to change the next day.

I know that the mood swings are really hard for you. It is part of the mental illness and it is also part of what your dad experiences too. But I also wanted to just get off the rollercoaster sometimes. For me, the best way is always going to be getting outside no matter what the weather or my mood. But different people are able to find other ways of doing this. Keep looking at the good moods carefully and analyze them. What made that moment better? Then try to repeat what you did to get there. Today it is very clearly sleep.

So, why are you studying? Ultimately, to be a more complete adult. To understand other people, the way the world works, and to find your way in to making the world a better place. And I truly believe that you can do that. But it starts from that foundation of knowledge. You can't tell at this point what is going to be important for your adult journey so you need to gather as many different types of knowledge as possible. But it is also why looking for the kinds of knowledge right now that bring you any sense of excitement (very hard to do depressed I know) is really important. You want to end up in a corner of the world where you will be happiest. This comes from knowing what your interests are. Start keeping a list.

Over the past few months, I am starting as an outsider to get a better sense of those - you like things neat and clean, you may have some interest in photography, you have a clear interest in psychology and how brains work, you care about appearances, you feel a good amount of empathy for certain people, you lean more towards English and analyzing things overall. Your mom is right to call you creative and imaginative.

All of that foundational memorization will eventually become something that you do less and less of. You can easily do things where you analyze more.

Ok, I have read everything tonight except for your last few paragraphs. I will try to get them tomorrow. Time for sleep for me.

bestVase7265 September 7th

Ok, I will try to get to the rest of your message now after reporting my good thing for the day. I guess that would be a picture from my son today. He is on a very long trip and it was nice to see a picture of him enjoying himself by being a little goofy.

You do a really nice job in your second message analyzing yourself. It was another thing that really made me smile and happy for you. Just a month ago or so you were freaked out by that assignment asking you to consider future paths. That is, I am sure, still really scary, but the real you is starting to emerge. 

I told you six months ago or more that I thought you were good at English and in some cases better than my own students. I still feel that way. You are able to analyze and be creative and not everyone can do that. Your mom is right in what she is starting to see in you in terms of interests. I too don't really like to memorize things. I like analyzing things better. What you are probably doing better than most students in school in English, etc. is asking the questions "why" and "how" and then trying to answer them. A lot of students (mine included) just try to repeat things verbatim without much curiosity. I agree that writing things neatly and in a good order also lead to good marks.

You have that curiosity so you can see links between things that other people are missing. It is a great skill to have. I can see it in how you try to figure out why other people are reacting to you in certain ways or how certain people make decisions. You don't write here in a way that is particularly out of order. Sometimes you write long but you are doing it to process as you write. And because you are on 7 Cups so much you are getting much more practice in just writing English than your fellow students. 

You have chosen a good solid stream in going with an arts track next year. I think that it will make you much happier. If you need to explain why just say that you like to analyze things rather than memorize them. That's the truth. There are also tons of jobs out there for people who use creativity to analyze things. You are on a good, solid path. No need to apologize for it. You also don't need to get any more detailed than to say you are going down a more arts based path. That is awesome for right now!

exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 7th

i promise i will reply later, i just cant do it now.

i'm trying to hard to get better but my mother is really pulling me back down to the hole. physically and emotionally. i just hurts so bad and nobody understands. the pain of trying to get better and someone continuing to hurt you and bring you down.

wednesday night i got a lot of sleep, remember? and thursday morning to told you i hoped for the energy to come later that day or the next day. well, guess what? it never came. never.

i was tired and sleepy for all of thursday and really dizzy too. because my mother was so sick she couldn't get up so obviously she couldn't cook. she managed the breakfast, give my father poha and gave me some puffed rice with curd because i chose that over poha. clearly i made a mistake there but i didn't know what was gonna come next.

my mother got so mad at me for not coming to help her when she needed it and for taking too long to shower. when i was done showering, i went to her and she was really angry. said she cant even sit up and asked me to do whatever i wanted about my lunch. i tired asking her what i could possibly make myself and she told me to just go to the kitchen and figure it out. she wouldn't help me at all, not even if i just wanted to ask her what quantity of ride grains i need to make enough rice just for myself.

so what did i do? ate whatever i could remember eating every time before this that my mother was so sick - puffed rice. just a big bowl of that. and i found a coconut laddu and some biscuits and at that. that was my lunch. clearly it was not enough food. and then i had sweep the floors because my mother's sick and the maid didn't come, and also do the dishes and fill the water. that sucked all the energy out of me and i decided to lie down to just breathe for a while, and feel asleep. when i woke up i was so dizzy and hungry and couldn't do anything at all. no homework. so obviously had to stay up late to do it, i went to bed at 2 am on thurdady night.

had more biscuits in the evening and i guess it helped a bit so i could do something. and i was able to make myself two rotis for dinner so i guess that was good, but i probably should have had more than my usual two rotis, because friday morning i woke up with so much stomach pain because i was really hungry and my stomach hurts when that happens.

but i don't understand, why was i hungry? i usually never am. what the heck is wrong with my body?

anyway, yeah, yesterday was a very sleepy tired day with various parts of my body aching. especially my back. it hurts today too, i dunno what's going on. i had absolutely no energy yesterday all day. so instead of doing homework which i had no motivation to do, i did my cups work which is actually fun to do, and it made me feel a bit better. so i went to bed at 1 am feeling quite okay.

i was fine when i woke up today at 8 and thought i'd get some work done today after the shopping we have to do today.

but my mother said some awful words that hurt me like crazy and i cried and feel awful and the thoughts are getting bad. suicidal thoughts, that is. it's 11 am and i'm supposed to get ready to go out right now but i'm writing here instead because i'm in so much pain. we have to go out for our durga puja shopping for clothes for me and my father. and the idea of buying new clothes always makes the thoughts bad because what's the point of buying clothes i might not even live to wear? and with everything that happened today morning...

i guess i'll just keep trying, but i dunno. i'll see if i can do some homework after we come home in the evening. we'll be out for most of today.

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exuberantBlackberry9105 OP September 7th

sometimes i feel like it's all my mother's fault. i'm depressed because of the things she's said and done to me. my self esteem is non existent because she destroyed it. i worry so much because her actions and words have taught me to overthink things, and also having her share her thoughts and worries has over the years taught me to worry so much.

she's the reason i think of suicide so much because she doesn't care about me and she threatens suicide too. i mean, that's where the idea first came from. i've known of suicide and some means to do it since i was 7. that's half my life. all before i ever did research and stuff online.

i may not have seriously considered it until i was 11, but i've known of it for so long. and not-so-seriously considered it so many times before turning 11. that's what always comes to my mind as an escape from every problem or difficult situation.

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