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HealingTalk August 9th, 2023


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Crying

I imagine our tears flowing into a common sea.

"All the rivers flow into the sea"...

We are all together in this.

Our shared sorrow is there, it has been for generations and always will be, as an inherent part of our human condition.

Crying is frequent when we grieve. We might cry. A lot.

It is a way of releasing strong emotions, particularly sadness.

Crying expresses these intense emotions, contributes to processing our pain and, hopefully, might help us cope with grief by releasing some of its intensity.


Questions

- Do you cry from time to time? Rarely? Often? A little? A lot?

- What makes you cry?

- How do you feel after crying?

- How are you feeling these days?


These questions are optional. You can add any comments you wish, as they come to your mind.

I look forward to your answers!

And I wish you all the best!

Marcelo.


Image: "Crying Woman" Candido Portinari - 1955 - Crayon on paper. Portinari is the most renowned visual artist of Brazil, and South America. He has a series of "Crying Woman" drawings and paintings, some of which are "too expressive" to post here.


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This piece was first posted as the Grief & Loss Check-In of August 11, 2023


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Jaeteuk August 9th, 2023

The BBQ I had the past Sunday, invitation to a family friend who lost their eldest daughter a decade ago to Leukemia. A week before their arrival, I had a wave of sadness. As I never really got any closure to her leaving us. She's about 10 years older than I, but ever since I was younger, our families often had sleepovers at their house and had seasonal parties with other families. I don't even remember that our family had been invited to her funeral.

The sadness though, I wasn't able to release it through tears, but I just felt depressed for about a week.

I find it difficult to cry from losses or for any other reasons. I usually tend to release my tears if I'm watching TV Dramas, when the story is sad. Since I only cry from watching dramas, there are no lingering feelings after. I might end up thinking about my own life, and comparing to what I saw and apply it, then be able to feel how sad my life would seem if what I saw happened to me in the real world. I would only get teary if I keep thinking about sad thoughts, but that tear will not be released. I think I had been so used to masking my emotions that things like tears are difficult to develop and let it be released.

There had been times where I had felt emotional at work, but those tears are just in the developing stage. It's weird.

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HealingTalk OP August 9th, 2023

@Jaeteuk

Hi, Jae!

Thank you for coming here to share your feelings and experiences!

It seems like you're still carrying a lot of grief about this girl's passing, even though it was a long time ago. Even though you didn't cry, your sadness manifested in other ways.

It's healthy to process those emotions.

You seem to do it through "catharsis", which is a way of vicariously experiencing emotions by watching a fictional story (or theatre play like in ancient Greek theatre where the term catharsis originates).

Crying from a story can be a healthy release.

Maybe you have a lack of emotional release in your real life. You might experience strong emotions, but they get bottled up. And that's totally normal, especially if you've been through a lot, if you're someone who grew up with a strong need to keep emotions in check or in a family culture that represses the expression of emotions.

Sometimes, depression is a sign that emotions are bottled up inside and you haven't processed them.

Watching dramas or reading sad novels might help. Also taking acting lessons, (and other performing arts) might be powerful ways to train ourselves in expressing our emotions.

You could also take some steps to express emotions in a more direct way. Practicing compassion through guided meditations and visualizations comes to my mind as a possible way, if it makes sense.

I hope some of these ideas might be helpful.

Thank you again for coming to this check-in to share your life experiences!

All the best, Jae!

Marcelo
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mish3l August 10th, 2023

You have no idea how relatable this post is right now. I have crying episodes that last for days, the last one lasted for weeks even. I'm currently in one of them. It always comes when I least expect it. Tonight it hit hard, I'm trying to ground myself, to stay present, desperately try to hold on to something but it just goes down into darkness, sadness and depression.


I fear it when it comes, because my crying is excessive,. I had episodes when I couldn't stop crying until I got sick and threw up all night. I never want to go through that again.


I just miss him and his amazing voice so much. I'm not a believer but I like to imagine he sings to all the people that come to heaven.

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HealingTalk OP August 10th, 2023

@mish3l

Hi Mish!

Thank you for coming here to share your feelings and your experiences.

It's good that this post was in tune with your mood so that it might be helpful.

You sound really overwhelmed and exhausted, and the way you describe it is really intense. When crying becomes excessive like that, it's called "grief storm" and it can feel like the crying might never stop.

During a grief storm, you might feel extreme outbursts of emotions like anger, sadness, guilt, regret, loneliness, despair, etc.

Also things in your body, like fatigue, loss of appetite, difficulty sleeping, headaches, stomachaches, etc. and social withdrawal, and severe reduction in your performance at work or school.

What you are doing is the best first step for dealing with these episodes: grounding in the here and now. You already know it and you are doing it. Congratulations on that!

Just in case, here are a couple of lists of grounding techniques that you might check to expand your repertoire and try what works best for you: https://www.healthline.com/health/grounding-techniques

https://www.verywellmind.com/grounding-techniques-for-ptsd-2797300

After you are grounded, allow yourself to feel your emotions. Don't try to bottle them up. It's like swimming through a big wave. You dive deep to the bottom of the wave until it passes. If possible, do it sharing your emotions with someone you trust.

Also take care of your body. Eat healthy foods, get enough sleep, and exercise. Your body is your friend in dealing with this. As much as possible, don't push yourself to do too much. Take breaks when you need them.

Find ways to connect with others. Besides friends and family, coming to the different places that 7 Cups offers, might help you much.

Episodes of this intensity won't last forever, though it might feel like they will.

It is really touching and sweet that you like to imagine him bringing comfort to those who have gone on. Even if you're not a believer, it's a beautiful thought.

It's really touching to see how deeply you cared for him. His voice was a very distinctive characteristic of him, that made him so special and different from anyone else. When you heard his voice, it must have felt intensely that he was there with you.

He was a superb singer, no doubt about it.

You honor his memory by reminding all of us what an amazing singer he was.


Thank you again, Mish for coming here to share so honestly your feelings and life experiences!

May you feel better soon.

All the best in these difficult moments!

Marcelo.

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mish3l August 10th, 2023

@HealingTalk Hi, you can call me Mishel or Michaela.

You just described everything, it's amazing how you can understand and support, thank you 🙏 I sincerely hope you're right that it won't last forever and it won't get worse because I'm so exhausted. Sometimes it feels like I'm drowning.

Thank you for the links 🙏 they helped in the morning after, I'll store them for later. All those exercises are new and strange to me. The one thing that always helped me was the music. Music and sports were always enough, I didn't need anything else. Music got me through the worst years, saved my life. But it's the one thing I can't do right now, it hurts. Any music just hurts. It's like that since 2017 when he passed away to suicide but this year is the hardest since. Such a bad and long depression I haven't got in almost 20 years.

I imagine my grandma and aunt are listening up there. We weren't at the best terms when I lost them. I tried to make things up between us but they both didn't want to and then they passed away. I miss them. He sings to them and to all of my lost selves I need to find again.

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WinterRose9 August 10th, 2023
  1. Yes i do, i think its theraputic to cry especially after dealing with alot of different things
  2. Just thinking about my friends that have passed.
  3. I feel pretty good especially once i let it all out
  4. im feeling pretty good
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HealingTalk OP August 10th, 2023

@PhoenixButterfly97

I think that what you say is very insightful, Butterfly! In a very concise and to-the-point way.

Crying is cathartic, and it's very healthy. Sometimes, we just need to get things out. Crying releases tension, it helps us to process our emotions, and it even releases hormones called endorphins, that help to heal us and make us feel better.

It's very positive to have a strong emotional release through crying, especially when you're processing difficult and painful experiences such as the loss of friends.

Crying can indeed be therapeutic, as it allows you to express and release pent-up emotions.

It seems like you've found a healthy way to cope with your feelings and let your sadness out.

And you're so strong to allow yourself to cry and to let your emotions run their course. That takes a lot of strength and acceptance of your vulnerability.

It's great to hear that you've been feeling well recently and that allowing yourself to cry has been helping you.

I wish you continue to feel good. It seems to me that you have been making great progress processing your traumatic losses, while at the same time keeping connected to your emotions, and remembering and honoring your friends.

Thank you again, Butterfly, for coming here to share your wise thoughts, your emotions and your experiences.

All the best!

Marcelo.

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CalmRosebud August 10th, 2023

@HealingTalk

Marcelo, thank you for sharing this powerful image and prompt. Also, thank you for sharing the artist's name so we could view some of the other images. Art has a way of capturing the soul, and grief is a powerful mystery of our connectedness as humans.

Love & Courage, Tas

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HealingTalk OP August 11th, 2023

@VioletVeritas

Thank you, Tas, for such appreciative words!

I agree. Grief is a part of life that we all humans share, and that elicits intense emotions, so it can be a powerful bond among us.

Concerning art, a drawing or painting might be an inspiration, and, without being triggering, convey the intended emotional tone and meaning of the message.

I am glad that you have found it interesting to know more about the artist. You seem to be an inquisitive and cultivated person, with a passion for beauty.

You are a professional writer, after all!

With love,

Marcelo.

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NotAllHere713 August 13th, 2023

@HealingTalk As I get older, it get harder to let the tears flow. Every so often when I feel completely defeated and useless, I just sit and stare at nothing. My mind is blank and I feel the complete loss of hope creep in. Sometimes I will shed a few tears. I have been accused of not having a personality. I learned at a young age to hide my emotions especially anger and sadness. I am not used to being happy. I've been learning how to show emotions to those around me to do my job, but I feel like a fake.

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HealingTalk OP August 14th, 2023

@NotAllHere713

Hi!

It sounds like you've had to grow up with a lot of restrictions on your ability to be authentic with your emotions.

Sometimes, people learn to hide their true selves, because it wasn't safe to be vulnerable.

It sounds like something like this might have happened in your case.

You had to hide things like anger and sadness, so it makes sense that it takes a lot of effort to show emotion to yourself and to others.

It's great that you're learning to do this.

It also makes sense that you feel fake, because you are not used to letting emotions surface and expressing them, so it might feel alien to you.

It might be real but it feels fake.

I hope that, if you persist in this path, at some point you can fully express your emotions, and that they feel totally real and authentic to you.

All the best!

Marcelo.




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purpleTree4652 August 13th, 2023

@HealingTalk

Hi, Marcelo,

Do you cry from time to time? Rarely? Often? A little? A lot? Yes, I have been crying a good bit again up until the time that I was contacted for an interview for a good job. I haven't heard from them again, so today I am crying.

- What makes you cry? Today I need a friend. I feel trapped inside. It's about 100 F outside so I don't think I want to be out in the weather. But I have laundry to go and do. I don't want to do the laundry here because the laundry room isn't good. I need love and I don't get it. My supposed friend in the UK has been acting strange all year. She doesn't really feel like a friend. The Hawaii fires shocked me and have me down. I feel like I can't help but I want to.

- How do you feel after crying? Many times I feel tired or exhausted.

- How are you feeling these days? This week has not been easy.

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HealingTalk OP August 14th, 2023

@purpleTree4652

Hi, Tree!

You have been through a lot, not just recently, but also from a long time ago.

It's not a wonder that you're having a really difficult time.

Losing out on that job opportunity, the weather, the loss of connections with your friend, worrying about the people who were hurt in the wildfires, and feeling like you don't have the support you need.

These are all very valid reasons to feel overwhelmed, and I'm very sorry to hear that you're going through all of this.

Sometimes when we cry a lot, we do feel exhausted.

Sometimes everything is too much.

Sometimes it's ok not to feel ok.

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purpleTree4652 August 15th, 2023

@HealingTalk

Thanks for understanding, Talk. I'm working on making a better life for myself. That's all I can do.

love and blessings, tree

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HealingTalk OP August 16th, 2023

@purpleTree4652

You are welcome, Tree!

You put in so much effort, you struggle so much!

You deserve that life gives you what you need, so you can reach a state of contentment and calm at some point.

I pray for your wellbeing.

With love,

Marcelo.

đź’ś đź’ś đź’ś

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purpleTree4652 August 16th, 2023

@HealingTalk

Marcelo,

I got the job! It's the dream job at the university.

Thank you for your support and your friendship. You're so understanding.

God bless you.

-tree

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HealingTalk OP August 16th, 2023

@purpleTree4652

Oh, how good!

Congratulations!

This makes me so happy!

It will make a world of difference!

Finally, you met intelligent and perceptive people who have good judgment to appreciate your value.

Our prayers were heard that such people crossed your path!

This is a time for celebration!

Cheers to you, Tree! 🍸 🍸

All the best in your new job!

Life is getting better!

Let the good times roll!

Marcelo.

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Jewelmoon17 August 16th, 2023

@HealingTalk

that's how i picture myself these days. people see me happy, people see me like nothing's wrong. But deep inside, I am crying a never endless tears. :(


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HealingTalk OP August 16th, 2023

@Jewelmoon17

Hi, Jewel!

We all have a social mask that helps us to get through the days and interact with others, even when there might be a lot of emotional turmoil inside.

It's understandable that you might have deep and complex emotions that are hidden from the surface.

It seems that there's a lot to process, and it can feel hard to deal with it when there's also the pressure to behave a certain way.

Coming here to tell your feelings might help much to release strong emotions.

I encourage you to post in this community as often as you wish.

I also encourage you to join 7 Cups activities like the Sharing Circles and other group chat support rooms to help process your emotions.

I hope that you feel comfortable enough in 7 Cups to do it.

And I also wish you that you find someone in real life to let down that social mask, and show how you're really feeling inside. Talking to someone you trust would be very healthy and healing.

Thank you for coming here to share your thoughts and feelings.

I hope to see you around here soon.

All the best!

Marcelo.

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CalmRosebud September 15th, 2023

Marcelo, I wanted to post this here on this thread because of the compassion you demonstrate in your responses on this forum thread.

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HealingTalk OP September 15th, 2023

@VioletVeritas

Thank you, Tas!

How tender and wise a definition of compassion!

Two souls sharing and making lighter a heavy burden!

The writing looks so authentic, and the drawing is very meaningful and beautiful.

What a gift! I'll treasure it.

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Veegee1 September 24th, 2023

Would like to join please

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HealingTalk OP September 24th, 2023

@Veegee1

Hi!

Press the "Join" button to the right at the start of the Grief & Loss Community forum (from a computer) or through the 3-dot menu at the top right (in the phone app).

I would also suggest that you go to the start of this community forum (here: https://www.7cups.com/forum/grief/ ) and post a new thread to the Community telling us your experiences and feelings.

Press "Create new thread", write your message, and then press "Add thread" at the bottom (from a computer), or the arrow at the top right (in the phone app.)

You might join our Check-Ins too, where we meet and exchange ideas around a common topic.

We invite you to join now our current Check-in here.

I look forward to your thread and for you to join this Community!

All the best!

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Paulrm October 10th, 2023

@HealingTalk

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THE BOTTLE

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HealingTalk OP October 10th, 2023

@Paulrm 


What a beautiful drawing, and such a powerful image!


Crying is often conceived as releasing our "bottled" emotions, a liberation of what's been held within, allowing our sadness to spill out and be acknowledged. 

Most often only by ourselves. But that is enough for it to be healthy, I think.

This bottle is open, with an opening seemingly wide enough to get out. 

It feels protective to me, allowing us to drop our armor and feel vulnerable, genuinely human. A shelter to enter and sit with our emotions.

And maybe cry.

The figure might represent our "bottled" emotions that stay protected inside but need to be acknowledged and eventually released.

Thank you, Paul, for your beautiful, meaningful and moving image! 



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Paulrm October 11th, 2023

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HealingTalk OP October 11th, 2023

@Paulrm

Wow!

Do you draw these yourself?

These are amazing drawings, and the transparency of glass is so subtle...


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Paulrm October 11th, 2023

@HealingTal

these were doodles I did on my iPad, kind of just to get used to using electronica instead of paper and pencil.

it was supposed to be part of a larger collage style piece that I will try to finish and share

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HealingTalk OP October 11th, 2023

@Paulrm


Wow! You are a great artist!

Drawing with precision on a tablet is tricky. It's glass and a plastic point so it slides, very far from the precise control of graphite on paper. 

A great achievement, and the drawings are beautiful and very meaningful. 

I look forward to seeing your collage, please tag me in your post.

All the best!

Marcelo.


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