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Is it my Fault?

GoldenRuleJG July 15th

Hi all, 

Hope you are doing well.

TRIGGER WARNING: Before anyone chooses to read this post, I would like to say that content and discussion is around SA. 

I wanted to speak about the rape myths surrounding abuse for women. What society teaches can be that:

* The lady asked for it, look at what she is wearing - sexual availability is not reflected in clothing choices. It's not untrue that the lady can feel confident in what she is wearing. 

*The lady was flirting so this is a clear invitation - Just because a lady pays a compliment and has a jokey, bubbly personality doesn't mean anything deeper under the surface. 

*She did not say "no" so it's not abuse - Not all individuals will have the same reaction to abuse. Let's chat about the different automatic responses. There is Fight, Flight, Freeze and Fawn.

What if the lady has a neurodevelopmental condition? She is very likely conditioned by society and depending on her upbringing to "fit in." She may say yes through her verbal response but her body language says otherwise. This is a fawn response. 

A freeze response is about being paralyzed by fear and uncomfortable situations. The body is in a heightened state of shock and the individual feels very much overwhelmed and stuck. 

* The lady cannot get assaulted by her husband/partner: There is this notion that a lady has to meet her husband's sexual, physical needs just because she is his wife. A lady may conform because her husband may threaten infidelity or it is within the cultural notions or within her strict religious system. 

* The lady went out late: The lady can be called characterless for staying out too late and as someone asking for trouble. 

*How can she be abused if she doesn't remember it all accurately? For some people they cannot recall their abuse completely. This is not to be deceptive or manipulative - it is possible to develop amnesia. Sometimes as a way to protect the mind, certain information from the trauma is stored and locked away and maybe this is an indication for therapy such as EMDR. 

I can appreciate there are too many stereotypes and myths surrounding abuse against males and open to posts on these two. This post is to chat about the female experience. All experiences will be different whether it be based on culture, gender, sexuality.

No, Survivors Of Abuse. It is not your fault! 

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Tinywhisper11 July 16th

@GoldenRuleJG trigger warning, abuse ..um, ok so a husband/wife abuses you it's not ok. But what if you were a slave, so you had owners. That's different right? Cause they own you, so that's their right to choose what they do with you. It's a very confusing topic for me. I'm trying to process all of what happened, I have lots of questions I don't know the answers to.

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@Tinywhisper11 I hear you, and I want you to know that what you've experienced is deeply traumatic and confusing. No one ever deserves to be treated as property or to endure any form of abuse, regardless of the circumstances.  No living beings can be owned  and  nothing can justify the harm inflicted through such Horrible action of abuse.

It's completely normal to have questions and feel overwhelmed right now. know that we are here for you and i hope with time you can go through this aswell!
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Tinywhisper11 July 17th

@MindfulJourney22 I'm trying very hard ❤❤hugs you tightly ❤ thanks for your reply🙂❤

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@Tinywhisper11 trying is the biggest step and something to be proud of yourself! i m here for you and my dms are always open...

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Tinywhisper11 July 17th

@MindfulJourney22 ❤ thankyou ❤

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GoldenRuleJG OP July 18th

Bless you mind - thank you for the encouraging and supportive response ❤️

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GoldenRuleJG OP July 18th

Thank you for your feedback - yes that’s an important point to make. Each individual can process it differently and doesn’t make the experience any less - you are right. You’ll process within own time and when ready. Sometimes we aren’t ready to accept and that’s ok. There can be many underlying emotions. Take care and I’m glad you are here with us. ❤️

GoldenRuleJG OP July 18th

Abuse from anyone no matter whether there is a relationship or not isn’t right

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Tinywhisper11 July 19th

@GoldenRuleJG oh

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LabeledBPD July 18th

@GoldenRuleJG

what is the ultimate point of this post? Informing females of what they might have conditioned themselves to believe is ok?

if someone fell into the category or believed they had or continued to do so, then what? 

Rich from me but surly there’s more nuance? Complexity and things to consider?

are relationships worth destroying over reading and relating? 

I guess i know my relationship with him, he is not perfect and yes fits some of what you mentioned but then i am far from perfect also, so it’s confusing.

Men are different from women and , my head’s making this really complicated. I am sorry if I am being difficult, I want to understand it from every perspective.

What if there

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GoldenRuleJG OP July 18th

It would be interesting to hear from the male perspective too so hopefully someone can do a post on that. I’m open to it 🤍I definitely don’t speak for all females. Yes definitely there would be nuance to each experience - I agree men and women aren’t the same. The point of this post - to make people self reflect like all the posts - I try to make that come through. We all to some extent are guilty of bias.

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LabeledBPD July 19th

@GoldenRuleJG

im sorry @GoldenRuleJG , i know my ultimate issue is continuation of a relationship I know that’s not good for anyone involved. Unfortunately however if he recognises it he’s more inclined to continue than myself.

do we fight for the unknown painful as it may be, or hold onto what we know although far from perfect? 


It hurts to acknowledge what has become acceptable or just tolerable even when technically wrong. I lashed out and again I’m sorry for doing so

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Daisy22x July 19th

👍

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GoldenRuleJG OP July 19th

I’ll say to everyone- I apologise did not think this through well. The male experience although important can be expressed in the Trauma community as Women’s issues is exclusively for women. I get males need a platform to communicate their experiences ❤️

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SummerKay2024 July 20th

@GoldenRuleJG

My *** thought it was OKay because my bio parent traded me off. As an adult he messaged me few years back..he felt the same way 😆😆 and when I mentioned our ages because no stinking way I would do to my daughter what was done to me. He felt the same 0 remorse 0 accountability 🐡✨️✨️✨️✨️

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GoldenRuleJG OP July 20th

@SummerKay2024 sorry to hear the relationship wasn't a healthy one. :( Sends best regards 

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@GoldenRuleJG

Thank you for shedding light on such a sensitive topic 

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GoldenRuleJG OP July 27th

💛💛

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plumWater578 July 20th

I have a question


let say someone virginity was taken at a younger age by a relative and throughout their whole life it been just being use for sexual pleasure but that someone did not say no or do nothing. Let’s say that someone been told by their mother and other female to report something like sexual abuse if that someone is in the situation but that someone did not tell on anyone about it even when the mother ask them if I terrible person touch them. That someone become a victim right? But what happened if that someone develop something where they now engage with the abuser even though they don’t feel it’s right or comfortable… what happen if that someone became older as young adult and know what’s happening but still engage and end up with consequences mentally and physically (not getting beat up but sexually transmitted) . And have been ask once if the abuser is abusing them but they said it’s not truth because of shame of how their mom react. That someone became older to the point they go in and hospital or urgent care because their abuser gave them infection and didn’t want to speak and still engage with the abuser what happened if that someone is tired and tried and tried to break the abusive relationship but failed back to engaging their abuser. What what you guys call that? Is that someone went from victim to not victim or that someone experience so much trauma from their abuser that it automatically became permanent I. Their mind that’s their daily routine. How can this person speak up to their hardcore Christian parents on what happened without them getting angry and sending the person to youth retreat or be lecture by their pastor

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@plumWater578 It is not uncommon for victims of abuse to have complicated feelings and responses to their abuser, even if they are aware that what is happening is not right or comfortable for them. It is important to approach this person with empathy and compassion, as they may be feeling a lot of shame, guilt, and confusion.

It is not for us to label or judge this person's experience, but rather to offer support and understanding. It is clear that they are struggling and in need of help. Encouraging this person to seek professional support from a therapist or counselor who specializes in trauma and abuse may be a good step. It is also important for them to know that they are not alone and that there are people who can help them navigate this difficult situation.

When it comes to speaking up to their parents, it may be helpful for this person to find a trusted friend, family member, or therapist who can provide support and guidance. It is understandable that they may be afraid of their parents' reaction, but it is important for their own well-being to address the abuse and seek help.
It is important to approach this situation with sensitivity and understanding, and to let this person know that they are not to blame for what has happened to them. Encouraging them to seek help and supporting them in any way you can may be the best way to offer assistance in this difficult and complex situation.
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GoldenRuleJG OP July 21st

Wonderfully said!

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GoldenRuleJG OP July 21st

To open up is a very tough first step and when the time is right you’ll do it. You’ve done it here by sharing so thank you. When things are done at a young age they can become normalised to the point the person becomes numb to the pain.The fact that it’s someone genetically close there is the fear of not being believed potentially.


Wishing you well and I cannot imagine the hurt that’s been experienced.

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Thank you for this… I wish more people believed it.

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GoldenRuleJG OP July 29th

🙏🙏🙏In perfect timing we as human beings when we are ready, we accept we cannot do it alone but with gods guidance.

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