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Has anyone used the therapist on here

DanDrisco March 11th

Good evening to you all,


I am hitting a breaking point, I am losing control of hiding it. I don't trust therapists due to a bad experience, but at this point if I don't find one that I can trust time is going to win.


Any and all advice/guidance from anyone that has used a therapist on here is greatly appreciated. Thank you

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bestVase7265 March 12th

I haven't used one on here, but I know that finding the right fit can be hard. I have gone through a number myself.

I guess it helps for me to think of it as a critical dance. I have no choice but to do the dance if I want to feel remotely better.

I know that I will probably dread each upcoming appointment and afterwards I will feel drained. But usually when I look at myself a few days later I realize that not having all the evil in my head anymore has lightened my load a bit.

But it being a dance means that I need the right partner. If the other person or therapist can't dance then that isn't my fault. We just weren't dancing at the same speed to the same tune. So I have to try for a new partner.

Therapists won't always say the right things. They are human too. They will sometimes point out things that are painful. But that is ultimately good. So the more that you can think long term progress versus short term pain the better.

Does that help?@DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP March 12th

@bestVase7265


Good evening,


That was very well written. It hit the parts of my last attempt with a therapist that I did not like, immediately having a final move for any issue that I just needed to talk or vent about. I developed my own opinion now, so it'll be even harder to take on another ones point of view, but at this rate I have to give in.


Trying to hide breakdowns from everyone around me is taking a big toll. My appearance has become nothing pleasant as I gave up on myself during the last year in order to help everyone around me with their afflictions. I will try a few on here and see how they are, I really hope I don't encounter the same let down from my previous one. Thank you for your advice ❤️

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bestVase7265 March 13th

You CAN do this and it is good that you have reached a point where you recognize that help will get you feeling better faster.

Feel free to add to this thread any time that you want and I will respond within 24 hours usually. Having others on a similar journey on your side helps. @DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP March 13th

@bestVase7265


Thank you for your offer, with a full heart I appreciate it. It has been very tough to find someone to talk to as my circle can't seem to break the chains of addiction, which keeps me from fully opening up to them. I hope you are doing well, you have been a name that has popped up often enough to remember you.

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bestVase7265 March 13th

Well this is a great spot to fully open up without any fear of being judged or outed. I am in touch with a bunch of people every night.@DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP March 13th

@bestVase7265


I will always have that fear, it's something that I have always had trouble breaking free from. Hopefully someday, seems more than likely sooner than later, I will give in and let it all flow out. I'm still stuck in baby steps so it could be quite a while

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bestVase7265 March 14th

No need to open up a vein. I totally get wanting to get to know someone before you let them into your story. I am the same way.

I simply met if you wanted to start a general, friendly conversation about how your day went or you just want to tell me a little more about yourself that is always fine. Baby steps are perfect.

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DanDrisco OP March 19th

@bestVase7265


Good evening, I hope you are doing well.


Forgive my tardy response time, I did not know that you responded. I am open for conversation, although lately I am having a very difficult time with creating topics in the real world to talk about. I chose the road less traveled somewhere along the way and it has me in a not okay state. Now I am stuck in limbo with finding a way out of it but any choice or move that I make backfires in tenfold, so now I am in such a state of fear that I don't move.


I am not handing grieving very well, I never had to face these kinds of obstacles before. I am in the process of finding a therapist, and at this point I'm going to take whatever one I can get because nothing is getting easier. On the bright side of things, I grabbed some wood to get back into making birdhouses, but I need to get a new saw tomorrow so I can start ASAP



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bestVase7265 March 20th

Never worry about when you respond. I am totally on your timeline.

I can totally understand both that grief and the feeling of paralysis. When you begin to feel that every decision that you make has tons of weight attached to it then it becomes really hard to move. But each step is actually tons of little steps where you can't quite see what direction you are going. But the path becomes clearer the more steps that you take.

Tell me a little more about the "road less traveled" that you have embarked on. It sounds interesting. I too am on a road that few people travel. But I found being true to my inner self was much more important than how many people were taking the same path.

I also love the idea of wood working. Anything that you can do to put your mind outside of that constant worry and grief is good. What kinds of bird houses do you build?@DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP March 20th

@bestVase7265


You summarized the grief and feeling of paralysis to a T, that actually brought me some relief that someone out there has an idea of what it's like. I recently got into smelting metal, I'm no pro by any means but it was something that I never thought I would try and it brought me some sort of inner peace. However, as of late whenever I would try to go back to it there is always a roadblock that makes the task impossible for the day, so I would just go back to sitting still.


The road less traveled was mostly a full disconnect from my old habits. I used to play video games and doom scroll the Internet every 5 minutes, and one day I just stopped. I uninstalled everything that made my phone a computer (excluding this app) I sold my computer, I don't watch TV and boxed up all of my collectible systems which are collecting dust in storage.


After this "digital detox" as its being called happened, I started to find myself in a very lonely world. My wife will have the TV running while wearing headphones listening to YouTube videos, the majority of my friends will talk to me while doom scrolling on their phones and forgetting what the conversation is about, people are driving watching full blown movies with no regards to the road.


This reality broke my heart, I searched for someone that doesn't require this amount of dopamine and found nobody. If I point out these flaws to my wife I am called "a f***ing a**hole" if I stop conversation with a friend who lost track of the subject it becomes awkward. It's a very lonely world to me now, and I don't know how much more I can take of it.


I have built a few things, from large scale planter boxes to birdhouses and I am currently working on combining my new metal melting thing with woodwork to make some address plaques. I can't add photos on here for some reason but I think I made a link for the two birdhouses I have made.birdhouse

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bestVase7265 March 22nd

Oh, you are so right about people being absorbed in technology and then looking around and you feeling lonely. I haven't been able to be as brave as you and get rid of tech, but I do strongly recognize all of the dangers that it entails. There are like-minded people out there who fear or hate tech, but it takes a while to find them. People are often at different stages on that journey - some can go cold turkey like you did and others want to slowly improve. They really actually value human connection if they are reminded often enough of what they are doing. That is the category I fall into. So maybe start by having some conversations with friends or family members who have some interest in some kind of mini-detox. Maybe you can suggest one meal out with no phones. Keep it really simple. They will see the joy of that moment and then want more. Your wife might even go for that single meal idea. But some people don't want to see the danger that they are in yet. So you just need to keep a wide berth around them. 

I love the idea of wood and metal working. You are right that those can really be grounding for you, but your depressed brain might suggest reasons to keep you from them. It is the kind of thing that you have to force yourself to do a bit. It is really healing.

There are lots of other things too. One that I do is to sing in a group. That definitely keeps me from my phone for a bit and the corporate breathing helps to settle me. It's the reason that I am one night late with this message. Sorry about that.

Different things work for different people. Keep trying lots of little things if the wood and metal work doesn't feel right right now. @DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP March 22nd

@bestVase7265 this disconnection has been very eye opening. I do fear that if for some reason the grid was to go down there would be a far worse crisis than those that exist now. There was an instance where the WiFi went down and my wife's hub for her plant stuff wouldn't reconnect, I never seen a person get as red as she did in anger demanding me to fix it.


Although my new furnace was a dud and made me walk away from metals again, I ordered some new crucibles last night and when I got them today I got to seasoning them. It felt good, but now I am at this new challenge of what to make. All that I need is to get one good pour that doesn't need as much doctoring as my recent ones and I will feel more confident in that.


I also bought a new saw to get a birdhouse started, I am currently brainstorming a new design that is not too intricate so I can get that done quickly and get some confidence rebuilt there. For now I'm going to remelt these errors and make some shot which is pretty fun and simple, find a good model to mold and try again in the morning.


I feel somewhat better, not as checked out as I was but still feel like I could do more. Also, never be sorry for a late response, I am glad to hear you have found an outlet to regain a settling in yourself. All of my singing is in the car and the sounds produced are not something I would make anyone endure, but it does feel good to exercise my lungs.

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bestVase7265 March 23rd

So do you ever build birdhouses that are a combination of wood working and metal work? I am not even sure that would work because the hot metal might damage the wood. Both projects sound extremely interesting. I am glad that you have a better furnace now. I am sure that will help you create some really nice pieces. Having the right temperature is so important for metal.

You are right that if the world lost their internet that there would be tons of very upset people. But it might work a little like COVID when we were all forced inside and forced to spend time with one another. I just try to look for every bit of peace that I can find, even if it is short. I was at dinner tonight with 7 family members and we all looked at our phones very rarely. I think that I looked for 30 seconds once to look up a fact and then again for 1 minute later on to show people where one of my sons was on vacation at that moment. Instead we just talked to one another. It was very nice (and a bit loud). Again, it didn't last more than an hour but that time was really precious.

There are lots of people who find a great deal of comfort in meditation when they are struggling mentally. I am not really one of them. That is one of the reasons that I sing. The deep breathing is kind of like meditation but without the trying to control my thoughts part. I imagine that when you do wood working or metal work that you are also meditating on some level. @DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP March 24th

@bestVase7265 I have not combined the two just yet. However, today I woke up and something pushed me to make one thing in full. I decided to make some Viking rune stones with silver which turned out pretty good. I considered making them my new daily carries but due to them being too heavy I decided against it.


Eventually after thinking about exactly what to do with them, I decided to make a wooden case for them. The case was not in any way perfect, but neither am I, so I personally appreciated the imperfections. Once it was finished, I decided to give it to a neighbor that I reached out to around this time last year. I am ashamed to admit that I have not had a full conversation with him and I am trying to break through the shy side of my self. I caught him going in his home, walked up to him and said I made it for him and immediately ran away.


I hope he appreciates it for what it's worth, he was the one who pointed me to this app which has been a good help to me. Someday, hopefully I can gain the courage to talk to him. It's good that time with your family is absorbed by all parties. Checking a phone is not too bad but when it's non stop the time is wasted. Creating those moments are more valuable than any substance on earth.


I tried meditating, but my spine is not my best friend so doing things with my hands is the best peace that I can find outside of driving. (Even if the rest of the drivers are pretty bad) today was the first good day that I had this year, almost the only good day in a full year. I didn't gain anything from my work, but even if that item gave him the slightest smirk that is all that matters to me. I may be suffering now, but making someone else feel good is enough for me to wake up the next day.

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bestVase7265 March 25th

I remember you talking about that neighbor before in a previous conversation!! I am so glad that you reached out. I am sure that was a challenge but it is so awesome that you gave him something meaningful. I bet that he really appreciated it. The rune stones in the wooden case sound great. How do rune stones work exactly? Are they kind of a touch stone that you can return to again and again for grounding? If so, what a meaningful gift! If your neighbor pointed you towards the app, then I bet that the neighbor also recognizes the value of that kind of grounding. Who knows, maybe it was something that he needed at that very moment which is why you felt compelled to share it.

It is great that you felt the day was a good one. That can be so hard to admit when you are suffering from depression. It is kind of like "where did that come from" and "how do I get another"? It usually takes a bit to get more than one in a row, but it happens slowly but surely. It is a bit hard to trust those moments. May you at least have a few good hours tomorrow.

Notice how much it helped to be making things with your hands. That is an awesome way of meditating. We all do that kind of thing in our own way. Even on my bad days, I try to find at least one moment where I really ground myself and just be. Today for me was while I was out to lunch with a couple of friends (no phones). I knew that there was a very old tree across the street from where we ate, so I suggested that we stop by and admire it after eating. It was a giant live oak between 300-500 years old. I think that my friends were a little freaked out by all the caterpillars around but I thought they were pretty awesome too. Nature is simultaneously beautiful and messy. around.@DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP March 25th

@bestVase7265 I am not fully sure what they do as the definition of their meaning and uses seems to be so broad. One says they are for magic, another says they were a form of communication. I am hoping that communication is the one that defines it since I can't seem to get words out to talk to him.


I like that you admired a tree, I have been getting more in touch with the outdoors lately (birds seem to have been the main component that finds me) and I have taken initiative to pick up any random trash that I see laying around to do my part in helping fix the issues growing over nature. The few times that I find myself smoking cigarettes, which I can't even stand that I do that still, I no longer throw the butt out and instead collect them in a bottle or hold onto it until I am near a trash can.


Small acts like this have become a big thing to me, and now I get disgusted when I see some people throw trash out of their cars while driving. I have not hit the plateau of confrontation but it's pretty messed up it's as big of an issue as it is. I hope you are well, and glad you had a good day with friends

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bestVase7265 March 26th

I too like to pick up trash when I am out walking. It makes me feel like I am making a small dent somewhere. Everything helps.

I like to look at birds a great deal too. They are fun to watch and listen to. I will admit that I learn a bit more about what nature I am looking at using two apps - Seek (for nature in general) and Merlin (for birds). I am probably not using them in quite the right way (oh, look a blue jay I already checked that off the list so he isn't all that thrilling), but they do allow me to stop what I am doing and really look and learn.

Today my moment was when I was sitting outside reading a book (because the guys in the office next to me were too loud) and a small bug crawled into my phone. It was just such an interesting thing to look at. I had to be really careful to get it move without killing it.

Did you see or do anything special today that connected you to the world? @DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP March 26th

@beztVase7265 today started out a bit strange. I have not slept a full night since December and last night was no exception. I did get to sleep around 5am and woke up around 630 from a very vivid yet confusing nightmare. I get very bad migraines, bad enough to disable me for 2-3 days needing a dark room.


My nightmare involved getting a slight migraine and my friend and an old ex took me to the hospital. Joe Rogan was my doctor and stuck a needle with some kind of crap in my neck, saying that it won't stop it and that I had around one or two days left to live. He took off my one jacket and that alone shortened my life time by half.


My friend and my ex went to a baseball game and I told Rogan that I needed to make sure they got there okay, so I walked to the game. When I got there the valet was giving them a hard time, so I gave him my second and last jacket which left me with a few hours of life. When I got into the stadium, they were gone.


So I went to a coffee shop near where I live and as I was staring out the window, Jesus himself (crazy, I know) walked by so I ran outside and stopped him. He said that he was there for me, and it was my time to go. As he reached at my chest to take my soul, my friend seen this from across the street and tried to run over and stop him from taking me, but a bus sped past blocking sight of it happening. As it passed by, me and Jesus were gone.


Not exactly sure what to make of this but as I woke up in the real world, I started to get a headache which scared me quite a bit. So I went to this friends house later on to tell them about this nightmare and go on a walk around the neighborhood. There were quite the amount of birds, "free lumber" piles were everywhere which was strange, and there was a good amount of woodpeckers knocking at trees all around.


Today was very strange, but getting outside was a good day for what it was worth. I also had a pretty neat encounter with a big, an earthworm to be exact. It was nowhere near dirt, so we picked it up, wet some dirt further down the street and watched it burrow down. It's pretty cool to watch them do that. Which book were you reading, if you don't mind me asking?

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bestVase7265 March 27th

So sorry that I didn't get to post last night. I just ran out of time.

It is impressive that you can remember your dreams so well. I am not nearly that good. I tend to just wake up with a vague sense of dread rather than really remember what happened. That dream does sound pretty intense and would have given me a headache too.

Part of all of this is not sleeping. It was always one of the most frustrating parts for me because it didn't feel as though I had control over it. I could eat well, drink water, get outside just fine. But I couldn't force myself to sleep. Every method that I tried didn't work. I finally ended up on some very mild sleeping medication. It is all that I take for my depression now. Once I start sleeping again things got better. I still don't sleep all that well some nights, but I am not up for hours.

It sounds like you managed to have a successful day in spite of the headache and lack of sleep. That is pretty impressive. Getting outside is just awesome. I love the fact that you saw the wood and heard the birds and saw the earthworms. Earthworms are neat creatures.

My day has been a bit housebound due to rain and lots of paperwork to handle. I also continued to read the book. It is called Uncommon Ground: Rethinking Human Place in Nature. It is an older book that is a series of essays about how our ideas of wilderness have changed over the years. I have read it a few times. It contains a classic essay by William Cronon called "The Trouble with Wilderness." I like pieces like that which force me to think in new ways. But I did manage to get out to the store to buy a floor lamp to replace the one that the cats broke. Now they are currently sitting under the new one relaxing.... Hopefully the heavy marble base will protect against them being klutzy. @DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP April 3rd

@bestVase7265


Good day to you,


It's been a while, my apologies. I have been playing catch-up with all of the things that I couldn't, rather ignored, get around to and took that touch of "just get it done" I long ago forgot about. I hoping to continue on this slight ripper that I have been on even though the tasks are miniscule it's better than nothing.


These nightmares of dying in some form or another have multiplied, but I'm trying not to let them overrule the fact that I am granted a new day swiftly after they end. I am working on the easy stuff now so I can put more time into the bigger obstacles ahead, which grow more by each passing day but can't allow that to slow me down anymore.


Cats and their destructive nature have always fascinated me. Watching my dog and his calmness is nice, but seeing the cats suddenly realize that they need to run back and fourth as fast as they can is something else. That forgotten brain power that a simple reading of a book can kickstart is quite the experience. I was never one for reading until a neighbor passed a book to me to read through, once I finished it I got hooked. I am going to order a copy of that book you are currently in and see what new thought processes it can bring me.


I hope you are doing well, it's nice to have a regular conversation with someone that doesn't bring politics or rerun topics into play. Make today yours 🤝

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bestVase7265 April 4th

I am doing well. Thanks for asking.

No need to apologize for taking a few days off. I think that it is great that you are starting on smaller stuff in order to build toward larger stuff on your to do list. Having anything that you can check off is awesome. Ultimately, I think that it is all "big" stuff when you are trying to deal with mental health stuff on top of it.

Sometimes the bad mental stuff is a little like walking through jello. You can only sort of see the way ahead, everything takes more energy, and the floor wobbles.

I am sorry for all of the death images going through your mind. Those are never fun. Is there anything that you are trying to counterbalance them?

The cats have been good this week but they do suddenly start zooming around in the evenings.

I actually end up reading quite a bit due to my job. Overall, I enjoy it but I do look forward to summer when I can do more readings of anything that I want to read versus what I have to read.

I was able to squeeze in a haircut today which was nice, but it has been quite rainy since this afternoon. I am going on a bird walk tomorrow morning to look at raptors. It will be chilly but I am looking forward to it.

I think for my next answer that I will put something at the bottom of the thread so our messages don't get quite as squished. @DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP April 8th

@bestVase7265


I hope the bird walk was a good time for you and happy to hear you got to get a good amount of reading in. I have been working on finding new places to go to for walks, although it's been tough to keep motivation to physically go.


I have not found a way to counter these dreams, and now I am dealing with a pretty rough stomach issue so that isn't helping. Trying to keep positive, it's been the hardest obstacle I have faced in this life. I want to do too many things and it's overwhelming, so I am working on a check list to get it on paper rather than flood my mind on top of all the other things up there.


This thread has gotten pretty long, I take it as a good thing since a conversation has been held for a decent amount of time. Hope your doing well

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bestVase7265 April 9th

I am going to move my next comment down to the bottom of the thread so things don't get quite so tight.@DanDrisco

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Tinywhisper11 March 22nd

@DanDrisco hi sweetie ❤ I'm in therapy, I've heard a few other people talk of bad experiences with therapists. But please realise, in therapy your the one who's in control ok? You don't have to say or talk about anything you don't want to, at any time you can cancel or walk out. And if  you don't get on with that particularly therapist you can ring the company to change to a different therapist at any time ❤ I'm in the UK, so it might be a bit different here than where you are, but don't be afraid to reach out and try again. It won't be like last time. And don't forget I'm only a tag away ❤ if you need me I'm always here for you ❤❤ gives you a giant tiny hug ❤❤ time isn't going to win, we won't let that happen ok? How are you feeling right now? Huggs you tightly ❤

TreaureSeekers3 March 23rd

I wouldn’t try therapists on here. A lot of people have said they’re not very good in support and don’t help. I wouldn’t do online therapy. I would try to see someone in person. Face to face is always better. I see someone and I pay for them but it’s not much money and some will give you discounts or incentives. Keep trying to find right one. Do your research. 

TreaureSeekers3 March 23rd

There are places on the nhs for therapy what are free but don’t know if it counts in your area. You can get a number sessions. You can find out from your GP and ask them. Local doctor. I would go to them. 

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Tinywhisper11 March 23rd

@TreaureSeekers3thank God for the nhs ❤❤

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darkiya March 24th

@DanDrisco

I had my first therapist in 2022. I went through 4 of them before I found my current one who I am mostly happy with. I had a pretty bad experience too with an overworked therapist who constantly forgot the bare basics of who I am.  Like mistaking me for a teenager levels of forgetting.

It can seem very traumatic to deal with a bad one when you're already in crisis.  I lean heavily on 7Cups Sharing Rooms and group talks.

My advice is before you go looking for one take a moment of self-reflection, meditate on it, make sure you're fed/watered and consider sincerely what you want/need.

Are you struggling with big emotions and need coping techniques?
Are you lacking in a safe space to talk and vent?
Are you struggling with something you need help with?

If you can articulate what you need, it'll help you find someone with the skillset to best fit you.

Also consider the kind of person you might work best with.
Do you prefer someone who listens more than talks?
The supporter who will be in your corner no matter what
Or the person who will challenge your way of thinking to force you to  take different perspectives?

And don't be afraid to think you want it one way for awhile and then realize your needs change and you might want to change therapists.
I thought I needed a supporter to talk to but it turned out I needed someone to challenge my perspective to help me work through my struggles.

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DanDrisco OP March 24th

@darkiya thank you for your response. These are very good and valid points. Currently I am trying to find out exactly what I am in need of, as hesitant I am for this next step it is becoming more necessary than it has been in the past. I am shopping for one that will suit the need once it is discovered, for now I am just trying to keep distracted with making things in some sort of form.

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Taylorz27 April 3rd

@DanDrisco I am seeing a therapist on here. It's been a really good experience for me so far. I am using the text chat. I searched for a therapist who I felt could help me with some of my issues that I struggle with on here and have been happy with the therapist I have. I hope you will find the right therapist that you can trust. You can always change therapists on here if the one you have isn't helping you. Good luck hugs

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DanDrisco OP April 4th

@Taylorz27

I am very happy that you found a good therapist to confide in. My stubborn ways still outweigh my needs for that same outcome. However I am getting closer to giving in with each passing day, in the meantime I have been allowed to actually get back to creating, which has been a good temporary fix to staying in my own mind.

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bestVase7265 April 9th

Our conversations have been going quite well which is why they have gotten so long. I enjoy them.

I am glad that you are walking more (or trying to find the motivation to walk). Sometimes walking in the same location also looks different each time so don't feel too much pressure to always be walking somewhere new. I typically walk around the same pond in front of my house and the same pond at my work. Every time I see something different. Today it was mainly stuff related to the eclipse. We weren't anywhere near the middle of it, but it was really weird to see how bizarre the shadows of the leaves were.

I am sorry about the stomach issues. I can imagine that those make it difficult to sleep on top of the dreaming as well. I know for me sleep is the most critical element to make sure that I don't end up in a bad emotional spot. But of course we don't fully control how much sleep we get. When I was at my worst, I started taking some very mild anxiety sleep aides and I have continued with them. It really helped turn things around. But first I tried all the typical natural sleep aids. Have you tried melatonin or anything like that?

You are doing a great job in trying to keep positive. I know how hard that is for you. It does all feel overwhelming, especially if the list is long. Sometimes one of the best things to do is to praise yourself for every little thing that you get done on the list. Nothing is too small.

What kinds of little things did you do today?

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DanDrisco OP April 14th

@bestVase7265

Hey sorry it's been a bit, been losing my progress lately. I bought one of those Elon musk flamethrowers to try and have some kind of fun, but the neighbors called the cops on me. Luckily the cops were cool, understood it was merely to test it out in a controlled environment.


Talked to my wife today about so many things happening with me mentally, and her response was that she didn't care. So I left, called it a day and sat here while the TV was doing that thing that it does to me. I hope you are well and everything is going good for you.

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Sorry about the cop incident. That must have been quite unexpected. It sounds like you handled it well though.

I am even more sorry about your wife's lack of support. Sometimes people don't understand at all what this is like. From your previous messages, she sounded a little self-absorbed with social media, etc. I know when I first was really bad, my husband didn't understand either. But I think he began researching things a bit online and realized that I really needed support and help. I doubt that throwing a few online articles about depression your wife's direction would help, but you could try if you think that she might be more understanding.

How has the loneliness been lately? @DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP April 15th

@comfortingSunshine62

I hope you are doing well,


I was not offended about them calling, I understand seeing something like that can be a bit worrisome, just happy that the situation was understood and not misconstrueded. When it comes to my wife, our marriage has been anything but teamwork related. I am not allowed to point out her obsessive spending on her plants, which I don't mind she has this hobby, but when the house feels damp at a constant I can't get her to understand what mold is and how it grows.


The loneliness part has been heavy. I feel like I lost a part of my mental state, the things that once brought me happiness no longer do. Watching TV is absolute torture now, music has become the same, even verbal conversation is now tough to endure. I have been isolating myself to the car and driving aimlessly in silence to find some sort of peace but my thoughts become a problem and cause me to breakdown. Life has began to suck to say the least, can't be around people and now I can't be around myself.


My only peace has been melting metals but I ran out so I have to wait a week or so for more to come in. I hope your day is going well

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bestVase7265 April 16th

Sorry that your situation with your wife is rough right now and you are struggling with loneliness. I can imagine large amounts of plants starting mold. I am not good with plants myself and am more likely to kill them than my husband. But I have managed to get an orchid to bloom a second time which was a shock.

I too went through a period where anything that I used to enjoy felt like a chore because I hated myself and the world so much. I just withdrew inwards. But I decided to be really persistent about constantly trying new things to see if they might help. What might going to the library and picking up a book look like for you? Maybe that would be easier than TV right now.  Driving around is okay but go to a park rather than staying in your car. Then you can walk around a bit.

You will find peace for yourself eventually. I am glad that the metal work continues to help a bit and hope that you get a new supply soon.

And come up with a moment that brings you peace each day to write down or record in some way. Mine today was a story that I read about some students in 1949 storming a medieval castle to protest a new beer tax. They locked the only guard in a closet and then pelted police with rotten fruit. It was just such a funny image of a castle where real battles had been fought hundreds of years ago being used for something silly.

Sending lots of strength. @DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP April 17th

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Thank you for all that you have said to me, it has been a very tough time finding a way to talk to someone about this without feeling that I would be looked at like an insane person (which even I feel this is grounds for the title). I am planning on trying a new metal smelting combination once they all arrive, which I hope can get me back to reality and not stuck in my head.


I have gone to a few parks but ultimately had to run back to the car so people didn't see me crying. I am looking for a new book to read I just have not found the one that caught my eye yet, I am looking in these "leave a book take a book" things around the area while leaving some canned goods in them for anyone who needs them.


The best parts about history are those moments where a disagreement is handled in a civil, and hilarious, manner. I always found the Boston tea party to be good since they technically made a harbor a giant cup of tea, feel like the world needs this kind of funny revolt nowadays. Could make a giant pie and have it dropped from an airplane or something like that.


I hope you and yours are doing great today

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bestVase7265 April 18th

You are most certainly not an insane person. That is another way that your brain is lying to you. I am just here to remind you of that.

It is all very, very intense. So keep breaking it into smaller chunks and praise yourself often.

For instance, if parks feel overwhelming at the moment, start even smaller. Drive to the park but just sit in the car. Then practice just observing and listening to everything around you. Then go home and call that day a success. When you feel ready, expand just a little further. Go sit on the nearest bench for 5 minutes. Then call yourself done and go home. What you are trying to do is build up a new tolerance for the overwhelming sights and sounds that your brain needs to readapt to. 

In terms of books, the little libraries can be great as long as they have books in them. Look for something light and easy. If you are feeling up to it, try the regular library which will have a wider selection. But again, you can practice the same thing that you do with the park. Sometimes just grabbing the first book that you find and trying it is good enough. If you don't like it after a chapter or so, just return it. 

The metal smelting sounds awesome. I will love to hear about what you start to do with it. What kinds of metals are you going to get?

Yes, I agree funny rebellions are the best kind. We need to start making our protests less serious in general. The Boston Tea Party is a good one.

Ok, so now I need to think of my "moment" for today. It is actually a little harder for me tonight because I am feeling slightly off this evening. I guess that it probably would be sitting in the library waiting for a meeting to start. I suddenly saw my son walking down the path below. He goes to the school where I teach but I don't see him that often. So it was nice to see him from a distance greeting some of his friends. Sometimes the unexpected is good. 

@DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP April 23rd

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I have been doing the small steps towards the bigger goal and it has helped alot, so thank you for that. I found a book called "winning the war in your mind" which a friend recommended earlier in the year which helped them with a few ailments, hopefully I can soak up some key points in there for myself.


With the metals, I kind of went for broke and immediately started with silver, and now I am graduating to gold. I may have screwed up with not practicing with cheaper things like aluminum but I enjoy what the precious ones have instilled in me... Patience, paranoia of losing even a shaving and a more meaningful final product. When it comes to the self teaching aspect of things, I personally go for the toughest task so the rest become even easier than they already may be, although it is a very expensive lesson to teach myself this time around.


Once the world learns to lighten up a bit with the many issues we common people face and add some comical retaliation to it, I think things will be so much better than they ever have been.


I think your moment of that day was great. I can only imagine the feeling of surprise that you felt and the witnessing of his regular interactions brought, there is something beautiful about seeing a child's innocence in motion, granted I can only speak for what I felt watching my nieces and nephews grow up. My first niece was a memorable experience, I remember having to run around for "Sophia the first" merchandise and now she just wants basic teenager things.



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bestVase7265 April 24th

Glad to hear that the little things have been helping. Sometimes it can be really hard to notice the influence that they are having, but you do slowly build up a tolerance.

I like the idea of working with precious metals. Maybe you can remind yourself as you do it that you are a precious metal also and the world doesn't deserve to lose any part of you. You are molding and shaping yourself into something new.

You are right that the world feels pretty far off the mark at the moment. But I do believe that we are working toward something better. We are going to figure out how to lighten up.

Watching young people and their excitement helps my hope. Even teenage young people sometimes. My moment today was getting a photo of my oldest son (age 24) with a look of joy on his face as he was in a room with someone very famous. It helped confirm to me that he is not only on a good path but also is on a path where he can be happy and fulfilled. 

@DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP April 29th

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I want to start out by thanking you for the precious metal comment. That got to me exactly where I needed it, so thank you for giving me a spark of life back.


I finally goty order of gold and chose to turn it into green gold, basically it's 75% gold and 25% silver melted together. It's a very subtle coloring but it's something that I wanted to do for a while.


I believe that we are definitely heading towards a better future, there might be one more bump in the road before we can achieve that as a whole but I think once we hurdle over it things will be better than ever, at least I have hope for that outcome. Hopefully this apocalyptic fetish that has been taking over doesn't get out of hand and people learn self sustaining techniques.


I sat at a park the other day and watched a dad play tennis with his child. It was beautiful, it brought me back to my own childhood and learning how to throw a baseball or catch a football. The simplistic things that we seldom take in are what could pilot the rough souls back to reality and bring this world back that same spark of life that you gave me.


I just want to see that old "love thy neighbor" lifestyle I grew up in again, no matter the race background etc. At the end of the working day, were all in the same boat floating through time with the same dreams, some may be more greedy than others but that's okay in my opinion. If money makes one happy, let em have it, if nature makes another happy, let em have it.


I hope you and yours are doing great

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bestVase7265 April 15th

Something weird happened with the site there. The post was actually mine rather than comforting sunshine. I have no idea what the system just did....@DanDrisco

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DanDrisco OP April 15th

@bestVase7265 that is pretty funny. Maybe it's a sign I need to get outside again or that the weather is going to be decent for a while 😅

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bestVase7265 April 30th

I love the idea of the gold/silver mix. That sounds like a beautiful color. I am glad that my comment about metal working helped a bit.

I just finished reading a great little book (forgive me if I have mentioned it before) called "Let Your Life Speak" by Parker Palmer. I highly recommend it. He talks a bit about his own mental health struggles and ends on a really interesting note. He basically says if we could just see the abundance around us that we could work better with one another and create the world that we want. The elements are all there waiting for us to see them.

Your tennis story reads like one of those elements. I totally agree that those are the kind of moments that we are looking for - simple and real. I am really proud of you for being able to get out and see that. It can be so hard when depression is hitting to do that. 

The "love your neighbor" lifestyle of just letting them be to do what they want is the best path. I believe in it too.

Myself and my family are all doing well. We just got done my youngest son's final high school play weekend. He was in Little Shop of Horrors as the giant plant puppet. I remember when I found out I was really disappointed. It is one of my least favorite plays and his role didn't involve talking or singing. He wasn't happy that was his final senior role. But then I watched it three times. Seeing those kids throwing themselves with full abandon into their parts was pretty awesome. My son made that plant which was heavy and hard to move come to life. So I grew and he grew. And it is all about the growth. 

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DanDrisco OP May 10th

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That's amazing, I recently watched little shop of horrors. Although a part may not be as involved as others, it's all about what you make of it and it sounds like he nailed that part. I do not think that book was mentioned but it sounds interesting, the amount of things that are available in plain sight is something that needs more attention.


My metal thing seems to have evolved in a way, which has made me very happy as I preach evolution necessities in all aspects of daily life. I went from mediocre half finished pieces to roughly 86% finished ones which is advancement in my opinion. As I say with all things I make, "it isn't perfect and neither am I". That in itself is a hurdle that can't be passed as I am too critical on the things that I do 100% wouldn't be enough to me.


I am happy you and your family are doing well, and I am even happier that I found an ear that helped pull me out of the battle I took on with my shadow for even a moment.

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bestVase7265 May 12th

It can be really hard to reach that great moment of acceptance that what we make isn't perfect and we aren't either and that is great. There is no such thing as perfection. Something is just better than what we did before because we learned something new. I am so happy that your pieces are teaching you that.

I am also thrilled that your battle with the depression beast continues to go your way. You are doing really great things to keep that happening.

Mine has been a bit tougher in the last few weeks, but I know that things will get better in about a week when the student who has been causing me a great deal of grief, anger, and self doubt finally graduates. So it is a waiting game at this point.

And I continue to stay focused on the little things. Today my son rescued a tortoise that he found in the middle of the road. It was obviously someone's pet. We took care of it for a little while in our backyard before he was able to turn it over to a rescue shelter who knew the right things to do. It was fun to watch it walking around the house. @DanDrisco

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bestVase7265 May 7th

I have been thinking of you and hoping that things are going well.