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My anger is ruining my marriage

User Profile: monkeywrench091
monkeywrench091 December 11th

Not sure if this is the place. I have been dealing with anger, anxiety and depression for as long as I can remember. Lately and for the last 5 years it’s been bad. I lash out against others and it’s coming to the point my wife wants a divorce. Tried to do therapy before but I fall right back in the same hole. I need to figure out a way to change or I will never get my wife back. We have 2 girls and I constantly yell at them over the littlest things. I need some way of dealing with this so I don’t lose my family

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User Profile: PineTreeTree
PineTreeTree December 11th

@monkeywrench091 I’m sorry you’re suffering the results of your anger. For depression I would suggest you look at Dr. David Burns book, Feeling Good. For your relationship you might benefit from his book, Feeling Good Together. Mindfulness practices can be really helpful with anger. You may want to look into insight meditation and meta meditation. If you can afford a therapist that may be helpful as well.


The problem with anger is that by the time it hits us we are already acting on it. It takes some work up front, before we experience the anger. This up front work is worth it in so many ways beyond just dealing with anger. Your spouse wants you to be a safe person to be around and your children need that from you too. The lessons you will learn are something you can pass on to your children. The relationship with your spouse may become much more loving than you could imagine right now. So I encourage you to look at this problem as a gift. First for yourself and then for your spouse, children and others around you. 
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User Profile: monkeywrench091
monkeywrench091 OP December 12th

I appreciate that insight for the book. I have already seen this in my oldest child. She understands that dad doesn’t mean to do it. I need to find a way of channeling that anger into something that doesn’t show. My wife sees and hears me yell and scream all the time about things and then minutes later I feel like the biggest jerk and just want to take it all back.

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User Profile: Warstories
Warstories December 12th

@monkeywrench091. I highly recommend an anger management course.  This really helped my husband and I in the past.  And might I suggest a sport like boxing or martial arts.  That's physical and it helps a lot with anger and anxiety.

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User Profile: monkeywrench091
monkeywrench091 OP December 12th

I appreciate the response.

I would love to but time doesn’t allow it with the kids. I lost most of my vices when we had children, I had video games and the gym. I have been seeking anger management but finding one that will not break the bank has been rough. I have had issues with anger my whole like due to a rough separated home which I don’t want my kids to have. I was in anger management when I was in middle school for fighting. I need to overcome this to save my marriage and my health.

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User Profile: adventurousBranch3786
adventurousBranch3786 December 12th

@monkeywrench091. I have seen some weight lifting machines and others exercises that can be done at home. Would this be more convenient?

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User Profile: monkeywrench091
monkeywrench091 OP December 12th

I am going to start going for walks and lifting free weights I have at home just to cut a little bit of the edge off.

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User Profile: aiden123727282
aiden123727282 December 12th

hey man coming from a son with anger issues of a father with anger issues we just got into a fist fight and both got an assault charge because of our anger so i get how hard it is to control it. anger comes from anxiety in your head and being on edge all the time from everything going on your life. if you try to change your perspective and realize it all isn’t that bad you’ll be a little happier and you’ll get along with people more. some things i wish my dad would’ve done would be if he would listen to me and consider if what im saying could be true or a good response going from what he known or been told instead of going straight to it being wrong. just try to hear people out a little more and be a little more considerate of there feelings. and if they *** you off which i’m sure there not perfect either nobody is just try to let it go thinking of the bad outcome that comes after it me and you both come from angry family’s and it’s all we’ve known it’s a cycle and it takes us to try to get better not only for other people but for the sake of ourselves so we don’t self sabotage and ruin everything good we have

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monkeywrench091 OP December 12th

I grew up with my dad constantly degrading my stepmom and mom and then he would go into rages and punch and throw things. I always strided not to have this happen to me but here I am being just like him. Working on just taking things as they come, trying to stay as levelheaded as I can without raising my voice or fist.

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User Profile: sereneMuse
sereneMuse December 13th

It's a very though position to be in. But just because you got here and posted about it shows you crave for a change, and that's a good start.

I have been dealing with the same, the only difference is that I am the wife. My husband had depression and anxiety, which led to many other things to go bad, and he was just angry at anything and everything.

If you want to talk to someone who experienced the same, I am a listener here and would love to see if I can help.



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User Profile: monkeywrench091
monkeywrench091 OP December 13th

I messaged you. Thank you

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User Profile: crimsonPapaya7218
crimsonPapaya7218 December 13th

@monkeywrench091 my dad myself does this, this just makes me hate him and not talk to him, idk why y'all be doing this to your own children 

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crimsonPapaya7218 December 13th

@crimsonPapaya7218 *himself, I'm glad tho you're acknowledging this shi- cause' my dad doesn't even think that this is a problem. Trust me, you have really understanding daughters because of it was me I wouldn't even wanna look at my dad

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User Profile: monkeywrench091
monkeywrench091 OP December 13th

My wife isn’t going to let me back anytime soon. Life is hard right now. She is tired of the empty promises from years pasts because there was many times I told her I would change but she doesn’t believe me on that. I didn’t her wrong by going through her smart watch because I had a feeling and she was talking to a coworker about things and they were flirting. She tells me it was nothing and it just started and that she isn’t going to move on that quick. I don’t know what to believe. I feel like I have already lost my wife and having that happen is causing me so much pain. I will do anything to get her back. Making the change this time needs to be permanent for my wife and kids. I don’t want them to grow up in a broken home but I want them to feel safe with me and my wife.

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User Profile: fearlessEast3586
fearlessEast3586 December 13th

Hi I haven't read all of your story but I wanted to reply to this last post here if that is ok. As a parent what really helped push me to be better in relationships was thinking to myself For example what would I feel like if my daughter told me her partner was behaving the way I was in the relationship. I mean I really thought about it deeply I pictured it I imagined my kids in a relationship like mine and that pushed me to do the right things. I was able to look at MY behavior through the eyes of my kids and partner. So if I wanted to break the cycle I had to constantly see things through their eyes. It is very brave of you to talk about these things I hope you take small positive steps and give yourself compassion.

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User Profile: SparklySeas49
SparklySeas49 December 13th

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SparklySeas49 December 13th

I acknowledge your courage to post. I hear your fears of the consequences of your actions and your feeling of lack of control.  It’s not all your fault.  I think we are all doing the best that we can as we learned (sometimes poor) coping mechanisms while growing in this world.  

 Your wife is hurting too.  Just be honest with her that you are still trying to overcome an ingrained response which will take trials and errors and time, and love and understanding.

I wish you Peace.   

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SparklySeas49 December 13th

What i tried to post earlier is that our body’s going into fight flight mode (sympathetic nervous system) is a learned response that can be retrained. By daily practice triggering the parasympathetic system.  I joined an app for guided meditation , practice 10 minutes daily.  Also learned to notice when my nerves were flaring and to interrupt it by removing myself from situation…walk away, do calming breathing.  The body can learn to make this easier with more practice.  

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User Profile: monkeywrench091
monkeywrench091 OP December 13th

Thank you for the advice. I really think it is my fight or flight mode and all I know is to get angry.

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User Profile: SparklySeas49
SparklySeas49 December 13th

@monkeywrench091  yes and your body has learned to automatically go there after repeated events.  You can wake up your parasympathetic system again, and train it to override.  It seems very hard to overcome at first but with each attempt your body is relearning a new habit.  30 days to habit forming.  Read about parasympathetic, vagus nerve, stimulation.   ☮️

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User Profile: AFollowerofPlato
AFollowerofPlato December 13th

Hello there. I don't post much, but I randomly read your thread, and something unusual caught my eye on it.


There is one thing that always frightens me in this kind of thread, and that is the fact it, more often than not, includes a lot of people throwing all kinds of advice at the original poster. Like in private converstions with listeners, it is never too much to recall a sort of rule we (used to?) have around here - "We can't give out advice, because only you are an expert on yourself". Instead, let me give you something pretty big to think about.


Do you love your wife? And, perhaps even more importantly, do you love your children? I genuinely hope the answer is a positive one, and in such a case you owe it to them to the best you can. However, your problem is not a simple one - you've mentioned anger, but there's also depression, anxiety, etc, for a very long time. You've mentioned you played videogames before, I'm sure you're familiar with a monster called an hydra, which, according to the greek myths, when you cut one of its heads, two others grow in its place.

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In a similar way, that is potentially what is happening here. There is certainly a root cause behind all that is happening to you, specially if you even mentioned that, and I quote, you "grew up with my dad constantly degrading my stepmom and mom and then he would go into rages and punch and throw things."

Now, we could all try to combat this head by head, but each time one of us cuts one of them, chances are that two others will grow up in that location, and that would do you a very big disservice. Instead, what I can tell you to do is... looking up for professional help. Why? Because they can assess some aspects of your behavior live, can explore other aspects of your behavior with you, may be able to suggest some medication if needed, etc. That's what I can tell you - a live professional is best suited for complex cases like yours, and I hope you can consider that option, at least for the sake of your kids and their future, okay?