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Increasing Positive Connections and Decreasing Negative Connections

GlenM March 2nd, 2016

We have limitations to what we are doing here. 7 Cups is never going to be perfect. As you all know, 7 Cups is a process of trying things, failing, trying new things, figuring them out, and then making progress. Remarkably, this trial and error process has led us quite far. Im really proud of what weve accomplished. Weve supported millions of people and have undoubtedly made this world a better place.

Constructive and supportive feedback have helped us get to where we are now. We are very open to and thankful for constructive criticism. Weve written extensively about how helpful feedback can be an we also differentiated between process and content.

On that post I wrote:

To begin, when surfacing a problem and providing feedback – think about it in terms of the content and the process. The content is how you describe the problem or concern. Think of this as an objective description of the situation. The process is how you describe it or the tone you make. Think of this as the emotional piece of the description. Is it stated in a warm and helpful manner? Is it stated in a goading manner? Is it stated in an angry manner? (these are all process points).

As a society, we dont really pay attention to process very much. We dont really look at how relational dynamics unfold. If someone subtly insults you, it is kind of breaking the rules to say – ‘hey, that just hurt my feelings (this would be a process comment) Instead, the expected behavior is to just kind of accept it, feel hurt, and then maybe share it with someone else later.

As a result, we are often not very aware of the process that occurs in our relationships. This is even harder in an online venue.

However, as a community, we can make HUGE amounts of progress if we pay attention to our process when we collectively problem solve. It could actually end up being our secret weapon.

Here is one quick way to think about this:

1. Identify the problem or concern.
2. Write it out.
3. Ensure youre not framing any personal opinions as concrete facts, making blanket statements or catastrophizing.
4. Ask what are the emotions that Im evoking with this feedback?
5. Ask yourself – how would I feel if someone wrote this to me?
6. If you feel good about it, then post it. If you dont feel good about it, then revise it so that you would feel good about it.

Examples:

The rain sucks. Everyone hates it and we are all going to get flooded.

I dont like it when it rains. I am worried it might flood.

Nobody ever listens to me and its pointless for any of us to say anything.

I feel like people arent hearing what Im saying and I find that frustrating.

We are going to require people practice these respectful rules when posting moving forward. Think of our forum/community a little bit like a party. You might have 100 people at the party. If 1 person is being loud, negative, and insulting, then they can ruin the party for everybody else. That is what we want to avoid here.

Weve been getting reports that some posts are negatively impacting others. If we were in a real life group setting, then wed simply take the person aside, hear them, and problem solve with them. Because we are on the Web and not in real life we need a different model.

The first step is to ask everyone to follow the above process. If not, and a person posts an insulting, overly negative or harmful post, then well delete it and then email you directly to discuss.


I also wrote quite a bit about harmful people in Chapter 6 of the book. You can find it here.

How do you determine if you should let a person into your peer group?

People have their own weather systems. They bring their weather into your world. If your disposition is normally sunny and 70, yet every time Stacy comes around it become dark and rainy, then know the gray clouds have nothing to do with you. They are coming from Stacy. When you meet a new person, simply allow yourself to get a feel for their weather. If you like it, then let them into your network. If you dont like it, then dont let them in. Dont increase the size of that persons circle by spending more time with them.

We have also spelled out much of this in our community guidelines.

All of this leads us to where we are now. Recently, weve been hearing more ‘feedback that is really just meant to inflame things. These types of inflammatory processes use up valuable resources in ways that are not actually effective, because the people engaging in them do not really want to make 7 cups better.

On the member side, we started removing people who really were not there to get help, but instead just wanted to harass others. The environment immediately became much healthier. We are now transitioning this approach to the listener side. If you find yourself being gratuitously negative or inflammatory, we invite you to reflect on whether or not it is time for you to move on from 7 cups. 7 Cups welcomes anyone, but you have to want to be here. Ask yourself if the things you don't like about 7 Cups outweigh the benefits. If you don't like what you get here, it's harming yourself, and damaging to the community, for you to stay.

For our part, we will let you know if we believe you are being toxic. We will approach you after we have staff consensus that it would be better to have you move on. Well ask you to self-correct. If you cannot self-correct, and the behaviors become damaging to yourself and 7 Cups, then well ask you to leave the community.

Specifically, this process will look like this:

Alert you that one of your posts is not inline with these guidelines, delete it and ask you to reframe it in the appropriate way.

If you are unable, we will ask you to take a 2 week self-care break.

If this process repeats itself, we will ask you to step away from the community.


The vast majority - 99.9% of people - do not behave in this way. In fact, many people are actually quite happy with 7 Cups and we are delighted with 99.9% of you! Recent survey data is captured here and suggests 93% of listeners enjoy listening to members and 80% of members feel 7 Cups has helped them. The loud few would have you believe that things are much more negative. We are no longer in a position where we can continue to invest so heavily in so few. It is not good for them and it is not good for our community.

It is time for us to close this chapter. Lets turn to a new page, start a new chapter, and get back to fulfilling our mission.

Onward and upward!

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March 4th, 2016

I want to share something with you.

Now as we begin this enormous work, we realize time and again that all this is only possible because the concentrated force of seventy-five million people stands behind it. It is not Berlin building Berlin, not Hamburg building Hamburg, not Munich building Munich, not Nuremberg building Nuremberg, but rather Germany building its cities, its beautiful, proud, and magnificent cities! And that is why once again our thoughts turn to our Germany to which we loyally pledge our life and soul. In this spirit, let us begin our work!

It sounds positive, right?

Well its in fact one of Hitlers speeches. His Munich one in May 22 1938, to be precise.

What is positive for him and those who are politically aligned to him, are incredibly destructive to those who are not. To view something as either positive or negative, is to oversimplify the truth.

Id advise taking a more understanding approach to understand situations. After all, were here to listen and to understand and accept others. I would like to see a 7 Cups where we can build the community all at once. This is challenging though, when the positions of authority are using heavy censorship and forcing people to have a rigid view of the website.

As a Lawyer of 14 years, I shall be paying close attention as to how the website evolves.

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RarelyCharlie March 4th, 2016

Hmmm...Godwin's Law in action, perhaps indecision

Still, the point is a good one. Simply sounding positive is not enough. I've been thinking maybe a degree of radical acceptance would be useful, rather than an obsessive need to understand. If acceptence is conditional on understanding, then when understanding fails (which is not too serious) acceptance also fails (which is much more serious).

@Staths

KrinkTheMellowUnicorn March 4th, 2016

@Staths - hmmm, I'd call that analogy tendentious and perhaps inflammatory as well.

What is constructive about it? It sounds like an ominous (and severely overblown if you ask me) warning of some kind?

(Points to @RarelyCharlie for the godwin's law observation.)

Also, I'm not quite sure what you're being a lawyer (with a capital 'L', no less!) has to do with your comment or this thread.

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comfortableBubbles35 March 20th, 2016

@KrinkTheMellowUnicorn

pretty bitter response krink. i thought you just made a huge apology post about your behavior. dont you know the first rule of 7cups ? always pretend to be happy and drink the coolaid ! :D

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KrinkTheMellowUnicorn March 20th, 2016

@comfortableBubbles35 i see what you did there ;)

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March 4th, 2016

Godwins Law isnt applicable here as I was using it as a linguistic example not as a means of comparing 7 Cups of Tea to the Nazi Regime. Id be quite happy to give other apparently positive examples of speeches which then turned out to have destructive consequences if that is your preference.

My comment is constructive as it encourages people to be accepting and understanding. Viewing someone as either positive or negative comes across as judgemental.

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Isaac1 March 4th, 2016

@GlenM - After overlooking this thead for a couple of days, it appears to me that you're recieving a lot of negative comments. Please be aware that you can always reach out to a peer support after a difficult chat, and also just a reminder that you can ALWAYS take a self-care break, if you feel like you need it. (judging by this thread, I would think you do)

Also, feel free to check out some of these resources:

Pacing Yourself as a Listener
http://goo.gl/usGYZ1

5 Points on Healthy Listening
http://goo.gl/7bfdRL

Self-Care: Track A and Track B
http://goo.gl/4lqEJJ

Self-Care After a Difficult Chat
http://goo.gl/tVm0Rk

How to Practise Self-Care
http://goo.gl/Uxorml

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GlenM OP March 4th, 2016

@Isaac_ Yup, been a pretty rough week. Thanks for looking out, Isaac :)

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Isaac1 March 4th, 2016

@GlenM No worries my friend! I LOVED the book!

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SandyM March 6th, 2016

I don

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March 6th, 2016

@SandyM the simple answer to those questions are yes. Hopefully management can make the right decisions on the other questions that require help and more positive outcomes. (With the Community)

SandyM March 8th, 2016

Just adding a tag list for my post

@Anomalia @poeticguy @Pam @MonBon @RebeccaH @JaceofSpades @Erinik @EvelyneRose @Heather @Laura @Sarah @Pali @Amelia @Lucy2 @Katheryn @Mark5 @Jaelin @fluffyUnicorns84 @Dillion @Pat @Gracey @QuickJazz @MissZ @lara @GlenM

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LoveWhispers August 3rd, 2017

This was very helpful, and I thank the admin team for doing such a good job at figuring out how to handle it. Fantastic!

YepThatsMe2021 February 2nd, 2018

Hello 😋

ItalianFaith February 7th, 2018

Everything you are feeling is valid. I can understand the disconnect. There is a lot going on here, and personally, things were so much different in 2015 when I joined. I took a self-care break for a while, and upon my arrival, I noticed more chats to be innapropriate. I understand this site to be a place where poeple work through their issues, but dirty comments and pictures without approval on the receiving end is not the kind of issue we are trained to help with. Those people should be banned from the site entirely. Also, some folks I have talked with highly appreciate my empathy because most listeners sound like robots. I think we should all work together on how to address the issues going on in this community. I apologoze you have been feelimg so much disconent @Anomalia