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Hi @bestVase7265 This is a place where we can chat with each other. Thank you so much for supporting me, Vase. I'm very grateful and I'm happy to continue our previous conversion here. 😊
Ok, so you had two papers that didn't go well because you struggled to study with the depression. That doesn't mean you aren't smart. Your talent didn't go anywhere. It just means that you didn't study for those two tests. Calling yourself stupid is incorrect - what you did the last few weeks in not studying will hurt a bit but that doesn't make you as a person stupid. It makes your action incorrect, not you. You can study for the next exams and do better. Nothing that has happened is permanent or says something about you that you can't change.
So take a few deep breaths with me. You can do nothing about what just happened. I am not in any way trying to minimize it. However, beating yourself up makes things worse because then you can't do the stuff that you have on your plate right now. Don't look down at the work pile between now and your finals. You simply work on what is right in front of you, the notebooks and the internship powerpoint. They are the only things that matter. You need to see things in small chunks and just keep at it.Â
Turn off all distractions including limiting 7 Cups. Sleep as much as you can. Make sure that you eat. You still retain the capacity to do these basic things even if they are harder with depression. I know how many times when I was ill I said to myself "I can't". But then I would force myself into the room and I would force myself to open the book or grade the papers. After a while, I would start to relax and realize that the impossible was possible. Why? Because I had no other choice.Â
i wanna d1e. i am so done with this. cant sleep, cant do anything. i am crying every day. i come home from school and i cry. i go to bed and i cry. stay up late crying. hardly getting 3-4 hours of sleep a night. everything's a mess. got a truckload of homework today.
crying isnt even helping me anymore. i cry and i cry for hours and i dont feel better afterwards. i used to make myself cry to feel better but now no amount of crying is helping. talking isnt helping. showering isn't helping. youtube isnt helping. helping on cups isnt helping me. nothing is bringing me some comfort. nothing. nothing is making me feel better. nothing is working anymore. none of the things that used to help.
i've been busy with this stupid internship project yesterday and today evening. now i'm falling behind with homwork. help. i got so much homework today and couldnt do any of it.
i have lost all hope. now i just wanna d1e just wanna d1e just wanna d1e. i am fed up of everything. nothings helping, everything hurts. it just hurt. i cant take it anymore.
I am sorry that you are in so much pain. I wish that I could take it away, but I can't. When all else stops working, the best thing to do is to tell someone in person. I know you feel like you can't do that. But you are having a bit of a mental breakdown at the moment. Some medical professionals are the best help for that. Sending you strength and peace to find a better path.Â
@bestVase7265 stop it. please just stop saying that. you know that only makes it worse. please dont say anything if all you have to say is that i should tell someone in real life. i am struggling with some unexplainable stuff and you tell mento tell someone. whom, my mother? who really doesnt care and doesnt understand a thing? i cant, and you know it! if you're saying that telling someone is the only option i have, i gotta say that i have a much better option for me.
my mother just scolded me so much. it was so embarrassing. and now for some reason i just feel like the whole world hates me really badly. like everyone. no one cares. no one needs me. no one wants me.
my mother says that my yelling makes the whole family lose its respect. that the whole building can hear me and i'm yelling sitting in front of the window. says that she cant take it if i shout at her while she's trying to teach me.
so i said "do you never yell?" and then she goes "oh yeah amazing logic! i yell sitting in front of a window, right?! i shout for no reason, don't i?!" yes, right. she screams for the validest reasons on earth and i scream for no reason. absolutely correct.
then telling me how i just refuse to do anything to control my anger. that i refuse to follow instructions. then saying stuff about my skin. i know it's bad. i hate it enough. and she's making it a million times worse. i hate myself. i'm so ugly.
i wanna cry. i don't want to do anything anymore. i want to lie down and cry and then vanish.
It sounds like a rough evening with your mom. I am sorry for that.Â
I know you are angry and frustrated and feel like no one cares. But I care. People on here care. We matter and you matter too.
I do understand that my comment last night was hard for you. It only comes out when you say something like "help me" and I know that there isn't anything that I can do from so far away. I'd love to sit and shake your mom and get her to wake up. But there is no way for me to do that.Â
The only real solution can come from you. At some point it is already starting to come from you. You are understanding yourself better and you are growing. But it can be really hard to see that. I wish that I could make it easier and make you less angry and frustrated. But those emotions are yours to control.
I am not going anywhere. We will keep working on all of it together. Having just said that, unluckily the next two nights (16th and 17th) I won't be on 7 cups due to family commitments of my own. But I will be thinking a great deal about you and sending you lots of love, peace and strength.Â
One day at a time. You can do this.
@bestVase7265 thanks for letting me know, i appreciate it. unexpected disappearances make me overthink you know.
i just wanna ask, would you agree that when someone dies, they are in a better place now? we have this poem in english about losing a loved one and in class someone said that when someone dies we miss them but we should understand that they are in a better place now. what do you think?
i had my grandma pass away when i was 8 and grandpa when i was 13. for both of them, but more for my grandpa, i'm happy they dont have to suffer anymore. if i died, would people not feel that way about me if i wrote a letter explaining everything?Â
by the way, do you think its okay for teacher to use chatgpt to set question papers? our geography just said she did that.
oh and i'm just curious about your childhood. you dont need to share if you dont feel comfy sharing, but i am pretty curious...
last night i was up almost all night and and went to bed at like 4:20 am. so 1 hr 40 mins of sleep. then i felt so sick. i didn't go to school today.
a lot happened today. my mother got so mad at me and started slapping me hard and pulling me by my hair.
and my friend told me i got 12.5/17 in physics and 14.5/16 in biology. this is awful. my total in science has come down to 40.5/50. i used to get away without studying, but clearly it's not working anymore. i have to get up and study.
final exams are in march. for them, we'll have everything we have studied right from april 2024. and those marks will get added directly to the total of 100 for every subject. i absolutely can't mess up those exams.
Your mother should not be hitting you for any reason. Full stop. I am so sorry that happened. Sending lots of hugs virtually. I know that they don't make up for anything, but hopefully you know that I really do care.
Let's worry about your exams a step at a time. Seeing them looming in front of you for months on end isn't going to help you do better on them.
@exuberantBlackberry9105
when someone tells me that i make a difference in some way, or that i'm being helpful or that they need me... i start to wonder how i can ever even do that. it feels impossible. like seriously, me? how does this even work? how come it's me and the so many others out here on this overpopulated planet aren't as helpful or needed to someone in particular? there are so many people in this world. how is this even possible? is it true that every one in 8 billion people is unique and irreplaceable? 8 billion! i dont understand the world. its unimaginably huge. there are so many people. i dont understand anything and cant imagine anything. how on earth does life and death even work?
Yes, all 8 billion people are irreplaceable. Everyone adds something unique to the world. each person can make the world better in very simple ways. You see things other people don't. You care in a way that other people don't see is needed.
What's nice is all that you have to do is keep caring. There are no special tricks involved. Yes, you will make mistakes. I certainly do. But I know that I am trying. And trying is the answer. It helps you find your place and ultimately find your own peace and joy. @exuberantBlackberry9105
I HATE MY MOTHER. I HATE HER SO MUCH. SO SO MUCH. i don't even know what to say anymore. that *** is constantly telling me that i need to spend less time showering and study more. blaming me for not taking care of myself and staying up late and then not being able to go to school and getting sick often. says that i should to to bed earlier and get up earlier. she will no longer let me sleep till 8:30 am on weekends. i have to be up at 8 am.
i tried telling her i cant do that. she got mad and said that if i cant get up at 8, i should just leave school. i got mad and i pushed her and then she told me i'm getting violent and told me lot of more stuff. says i'm ruining my health by staying up late. and by not eating enough dal. i hate dal and i have it anyway and its still not enough for her. i eat everything she gives me and apparently i still need to eat better because she says i'm anaemic.
okay and if i cant go to bed earlier, is forcing me to wake up at 8 am not ruining my health? is talking to me like this and making me miserable and then having me stay up late crying not ruining my health? today i was gonna go to bed on time but i couldn't all thanks to what she did to me. i'm up at 2:30 am now.
she just wants me to study study study. i have to wake up earlier for that because apparently morning is the time to study. 8 am on a weekend for such a stupid reason. who the helll wakes up at 8 am on a sunday? well, i do. all my classmates get to sleep till 10 am and i have to wake up at 8 because i have a stupid mother. wont even let me sleep. wont let me relax or have fun. just study study study.
if she really wants me to study she needs to give me some freedom. some space. she cant be running behind me all the time. i'm not a baby. i studied today. i actually did. i got stuff done. but now if she treats me like this, i cant anymore. i'm up so late. she'll wake me up at 8 am and wont even let me nap or anything.
I HATE HER I HATE HER I HATE HER
she absolutely doesn't care about me and doesnt understand a thing about me or how hard i'm trying. my efforts are useless. this is never gonna work. if she treats me like this i just need to go. i cant be here anymore.
she is making me like living helll and will continue to do it till march because i have final exams in march. then she'll continue doing it because i'll be in 10th grade and 10th grade is important. so i will have to endd it at some point even if it's not tonight.
I am so sorry that your mom's actions are hurting you so much at the moment. She doesn't know enough about what mental health crisis looks like to understand what is going on with you. I wish that she did. She is panicked by your low grades, obvious lack of sleep and anemia so she is throwing all of the advice that she has at you simultaneously. She knows that your mental health is failing but she has no clue how to help except what she has tried in the past. It doesn't work.
Remember though that the only person that you can control is you. No, you can't ever to anything to her satisfaction anyway. So you try your best and let that be enough for YOU. If isn't enough for her that is HER problem NOT yours.
The key is that you actually worked today and got things done. So that is ultimately what matters. So praise YOURSELF for that rather than letting her control your mood about it.
What kinds of things do you do when you are trying to go to sleep and you feel too angry with her? Maybe we can come up with some techniques to try to keep the anger from overwhelming you. Do you do any deep breathing? It really takes a while to develop it as a technique, but it can help you find something else to think about. When I wake up in the middle of the night, it is what I use. Four square breathing - count to 4 as you breathe in, hold 4, breathe out 4, wait 4. Do it 10 times. Then wait a few minutes and try it again. @exuberantBlackberry9105
my mother says i'm abusing my own body. whatever on earth that means. says that i should go to bed earlier and wake up earlier to take care of myself. if i wake up at 8:30 am that's too late and i wont have time left to study, she says. and she also expects me to study at night after dinner, and then quickly get ready for bed and sleep. that's not something i can do. i need time for myself and cups before bed, okay?
i'm struggling so much and she doesn't understand a thing. i try to get more sleep and take care of my health. i try to hard but nothing is enough for her. trying is pointless. nothing will ever go the way i want it to, with her in my life and trying to keep me and my life all under her control. and having her constantly tell me to study and do this do that is only making it harder.
with everything that happened last night i was up till 4 am. yeah, right, 4 am. and then i tried to sleep. and she thinks she's helping me in some way by telling me to go to bed earlier and wake up earlier. i try, okay? i try. but it's pointless. she doesn't understand how much i'm struggling and how i'm just barely here and she's putting so much pressure on me. that i need to study and fix my bad habits.
i cant take this much pressure from here. i'm going crazy. she has to be so strict with sleeping even on weekends. like why in earth? do you think it's more important to get more sleep or wake up early? those things cant happen together because she also wants me to study at night and if i start getting ready for bed too early and she finds out, she'll wanna wake me up even earlier. and study study study. i need some alone time she cant always be behind me. i hate her so much.
now i'm just in too much pain and i'm crying. so obviously i cant study right now. and i have school tomorrow and a lot of work to complete.Â
my mother reached for a hug and i did let her hug me even though i hate her hugging me right after so much drama.
then she's like "what's wrong with you? why are you behaving like this? why wont you tell me what's bothering you? i don't listen to you, is it?" i stayed silent. but she insisted i say something, so i said "yeah, you don't listen to me". then she asks "when did i not listen to you? tell me." tried staying silent and it didn't work so i said "you never listen to me".
then she starts off "you are putting a false allegation against me. don't worry, karma will do its job. and i do listen to you. you just never tell me anything. because you think i don't understand your pain, right? you're just causing yourself more pain by not telling me anything. you think i don't understand?"
wish i could tell her "i don't just think you dont understand, i know you don't understand." because she does *not* understand my pain. she does not understand how much pain she causes me.
how many times have i told her that i want to d1e? not once, not twice, i've told her countless times. did she listen? technically yes. did she understand? a big fat no! if she truly understood, she would not just tell me "don't say that" and leave it there. tell me to get on with schoolwork.Â
did she ever try to comfort me? no. did she ever care to ask why i feel that way or what's really going on? no. did she ever even think i'm serious? no. just because she just threatens suicide to trick me into better behaviour doesnt mean i tell her i want to d1e, just like that without meaning it. but she thinks i do. so she doesn't take it seriously.  if she truly understood my pain, would she not understand just how much pain someone would have to be in to actually want to d1e?
and she still has the audacity to claim she understands my pain. she does not! and if she understood, why would she cause me so much pain and never apologise for it? does she have any idea how much her words and actions hurt me?
how dare she tell me that i am causing myself more pain by not telling her anything? telling someone who doesnt understand just worsens the pain. i am not causing myself more pain by not telling her. if anything, i am protecting mysle from the pain of telling someone personal sensitive stuff and not having them understand me.
what an understanding mother i have. i am so lucky to have a mother so understanding. yes or no?
my father seems to have forgotten me. i havent seen him since friday night. saturday morning he left for a trip with his friends. and he left before i woke up. and of course no calls or anything since. today (sunday) evening he came home at something around 8 pm. he came home, talked to my mother, showered, had tea and cigarette, talked to so many people on the phone. and to me, he didnt even say hi. i can hear him talking on the phone now but i havent left my room since he got home so i havent seen him and he didnt come to my room or even say something to me. wow. not that i care if he forgets me or not, but just saying.
he and his stupid sisters wanted him to have a child, right? yeah but only for the sake of it. to bring a child into the world and not even care about them. not love them, not have time for them, not ever be there for them when they need someone. this is the most beautiful thing i have ever seen. how would he feel if one day this child just vanished? probably not care at all except the embarrassment when people ask him how his kid is doing and he has to say that his kid is dead. when all along he told everyone i'm doing well without ever even knowing me.
i thought my parents are the ones who know the most about me because i have been created from their cells and have been with them every day of my life. (okay ive spent days without my father but not that much. and i didnt spend a day without my mother until december 2022). i was so wrong. my parents hardly know me. you probably know me better than they do.
I will get to these last three tomorrow. @exuberantBlackberry9105
I only know a different side of you than your parents do right now. Thinking so often about whether they love you or not is causing you extreme distress. You need to find ways to quiet that dialogue in your head. It is really hurting you.
How do you do this? Focus on everything else BUT your parents. Don't watch for when they might enter a room or not. Don't think about what they last said to you. You are letting them control your thoughts in ways they don't need to. You are in the driver's seat of your emotions, not them.
Lots of this (almost all really) is due to you not sleeping. Your brain is in an overreactive mode. You aren't allowed to control the time you wake up right now, so you have no choice but to focus on the bedtime situation. Railing at your mom because she won't let you sleep in isn't going to change her opinion. It just wastes your anger and energy.
Do try the short meditation stuff. Limit the amount of time on Cups. For instance, writing to me should be no longer than 20 minutes a day. You need to be studying anyway and writing down every single thought is making those thoughts more intense. Try to avoid shutting off the phone or computer and then immediately trying to sleep. Sleep experts have proven that 15 minutes with a physical book before sleep helps you start sleeping faster.
I know that this is a bit of a "Hail Mary pass" (which means try anything), but if you want to get your mom to let you sleep later, the message has to come from someone other than you. What would happen if you admitted that when you turn out the light that you can't sleep? Don't frame it in terms of mental health, just say you aren't sleeping. Suggest that a quick doctor visit. One of the symptoms of anemia is not sleeping. Let the doctor tell your mom that you need more sleep, not you. She is likely to listen and let you go a bit longer in the morning. @exuberantBlackberry9105
gosh i have so much i wanna get off my mind and write down but i don't think i have time. i have to do soooo much stuff and i'm soooo sleepy already. 11:41 pm. i have complete this stupid project that isn't even marked, and study for a test. forget about homework.
I am going to focus on the 2nd message. Sleeping and studying is better than typing more to me. Both you are your mom are very frustrated right now. As I said in my longer message, it is time to focus on everything but your parents. Ignore them as much as you can no matter what they do. It will help. You control your emotions, not them. @exuberantBlackberry9105