PL 101: Systems vs. Goals (Discussion 4)
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Hello Leadership Crew!
Welcome to our 4th discussion in this first course. In todays discussion, we will be talking about systems vs. goals.
To start, please read this post here  and watch this video.
The basic argument here is that having a system is better than having a goal. A system is a way of behaving that helps you move towards accomplishing something. A goal is usually and end state that happens after you have accomplished something. I think eating healthy is a good example. A goal might be to lose 10 pounds. In this case, you feel kind of bad about yourself until you hit that goal; and then, once you hit it, you kind of lose the purpose because the goal has been reached. If you relapse and gain wait again, then you fall back into feeling bad about yourself again. Contrast this with a system of eating healthy. A system might include things like: having a big glass of water prior to each meal; eating a lot of fruits, vegetables, and nuts; not eating after 9pm; and/or doing some level of intermittent fasting. You wouldnt integrate all of these new healthy eating behaviors at once. Instead, youd gradually introduce one and then another and then another over whatever period of time makes sense. The system enables you to continuously get healthier and healthier. You will eventually reach the goal, but itll be the byproduct of eating healthy.
Another example might be education. I dont really care all that much about grades for my kids. I mostly want them to learn and enjoy learning. We talk about what they learn, we draw things, they make their own educational videos, they explain things to me in their own words etc. I want them to have a system of learning and refining their perspective on things. If they have this system, then having good grades will be a natural result of enjoying learning.
This also has implications for 7 Cups as well. We might have goals of having a certain amount of group support messages or 1:1 messages. Those are fine goals to have, but we mostly want to create a system of support where people care for one another and then the natural result is an increased number of messages. Or, zooming back, think about this leadership development program. We could have an arbitrary goal of training a certain number of new leaders to serve our community; or we can co-create a system - this leadership development program - that helps people become leaders. The natural consequence of the program will be a higher number of trained, competent, and strong leaders that can better support our community. Â
What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed? What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?
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@GlenM
This talk about systems gives words to the notions I have been playing with for a long time. People have pushed goals on me, when truly I sensed an issue with the system. its beeen a process of adapting situation or implementing new ones.
One challenge I am dealing (hoping that it soon is a "has dealt with") with right now is organization, and have been trying out different systems to help with that. Im hopeful that the curent set up of my living space and new policies as to how I go about things helps me towards being more organized and functional. Some behaviors are separating out different areas of my life, implementing certain routines, and developing a plan and scheduling that all out.
The key system that I need to set up in my life to succeed is becoming proud on whatever I do, be the way I am and never to change & being confident without being nervous.
3 behaviors I can implement to help myself gradually grow that new system in me life is :-
1. Stick to whatever I do and complete it.
2. Always be pre-planned.
3. Always have a great goal to achieve and do hard-work accordingly.
Thanks Glen !!
@GlenM
This was a really interesting video to watch and learn from. I have always considered setting goals in life but its just not the way I am wired, I work when I am get to it and finish it properly. I often feel annoyed if people nag or bother me about doing my work which is something I really need to change.
What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?
A key system, I believe I really need to set up in life is a healthy food and excercise regime along with a self care night routine. Due to the whole pandemic and staying at home set up, in the last few months I have become an extremely lazy person with no proper routine of eating, sleeping or excercising. I really hope to set up a system for myself when in I can properly do all these things while managing my University work.
What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?
From what I understood through the readings and video, I have to change my habits and behaviors into postive ones that would help me get into my new system and stay in it for the long run.
1. I need to develop a better schedule, plan out things I want to do in the morning along with eating and excercise I can do. I will need to do research and carefully place different things throughout the day that help me become a healthier person again.
2. Become more strict with myself and have negative reinforcements in case I steer away from said system.
3. Also, balance my work, university and personal life well so I do not get over burdened and give up. Take breaks in between and positively reinforce myself for good behavior and actions.
@BookChunky
A healthy food and exercise lifestyle is also part of my system. When I am not eating healthy and keeping up with my exercise is when I start to realize how "down" I am feeling about myself and my position in life. Being active and putting the right foods in your body is very important!
What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?
I need a system that will help me stay on top of my schoolwork.
What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?
1. I can set up a schedule to help myself know when things are due.
2. I can set up a reminding system so that when I'm too anxious to look at the schedule I still get reminded of schoolwork.
3. I can get up everyday at the same time to help implement the schedule.
@freshMint9376
I can completely relate to needing a schedule to help me stay on top off schoolwork! I really like your idea of a reminding system, it is super interesting and sounds very helpful!
@GlenM
1. A key system that I need in my life is time management. I tend to set up so many goals, but the issue with it is that I can't figure out the exact time frame that I'd pursue my goals. I may lose track of my goals or just get lost somewhere inside that huge ocean of goals that I set up for myself.
2.- Getting rid of distractions
- Sticking with a planner/tracker
- Using time wisely
@heyitsjuliana
I totally do the same thing. i tend to overload my schedule with so much tasks that I sometimes don't know where to start. Time management is definitely one important key of living a healthy and happy life.
@GlenM
What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?
I think having a more "firm" system in place as far as managing my different clients will help me manage my tasks more efficiently. (example: time limits on tasks)
What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?
1. Buy a timer and use it to help me break up my day and create systems that help me better serve my clients.
2. Set very strict boundaries as far as when and where my clients can contact me. By setting these boundaries, I gain control over my clients ability to contact me and completely throw my day off kilter.
3. Forcing myself to take healthy breaks. I do not do this often enough due to the above 2 mentioned things. LOL.
@CompassionateDreamer8522
This was a great response. Wanting a more "firm" system in life is crucial for living a happy and healthy, whicl alos successful, life. Managing your time and setting boundaries are great places to start when it comes to getting our life more in order!
@GlenM
What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed? What are 3 behaviours you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?
The key system that I need to setup in my life to help in succeeding is disciplined routine and focus. # behaviours that I would like to see in my life which will bring growth are 1. Forgiving self and others. 2. Practising gratitude & 3. Boosting self-esteem and morale.
@Saquib16
That sounds like a great system! I really like how you are focusing on yourself, and how to forgive yourself (and others) as well as practicing gratitude and boosting self-esteem and morale! These behaviors sound like they could be very helpful to help you grow your system!
@GlenM
What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?
A key system that will help me be successful in my life is to live healthy, exercise, read more, and continue to help others.
What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?
Three behaviors I can implement in my life to gradually grow my new system are to eat healthy food, and and set designated times for activities or duties, and ask others how they are or if they need help more otfen.
@CognitiveACE
Hi! I can relate to wanting a system that can help me live healthy. I really like those behaviors you plan to implement, and it's really thoughtful of you to plan to continue to help others!
@CognitiveACE
I relate to your system a lot. I like your idea of setting designated times for activities or duties, I think I may include this is my system as well.
What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?
A key system that I could set up in my life to help me succeed is finishing things on time. I tend to wait until the last minute to finish assignments or projects, and lately sometimes I haven't been able to finish things before the deadlines. I used to believe that since I generally complete things well that it didn't matter if I waited, but now I realize that time management is important.
What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?
3 behaviors I can implant that can gradually grow my system in my life are not waiting until the last minute to start things, asking for clarification and questions when I need it, and setting up a schedule for when I do my tasks.
1. What I need is place with support , let me take my time and accepts. Who I am with a disability
I would need. to be surround myself around people that would Believe me , support me , let me go my pace and a place where go for if need.
Take my time and make sure I mastered the role or skill before moving on.
Being willing to ask questions to know more about role or sill I am after and ask other for feedback on how I am doing.
