What is it that make someone suicidal and want to leave everything.

@exuberantTalker9747 hi, i'm really sorry you're having these thoughts. i know they can be hard to deal with. i want you to keep fighting and holding on though, i'm around if you'd like to talk.

i like your question. i honestly don't know the answer, i guess it can be different things for different people. i read somewhere that suicidal thoughts happen when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain. and the cause of the pain can be different for each one of us. so maybe it could be all of those things that you mentioned, or maybe everything combined that makes the pain too much to deal with. i know this isn't a proper answer but this is all i've got, i'm sorry. 💙

i understand that you feel alone but i want you to know that you're not. and i'm sorry you feel misunderstood, i know that can hurt a lot and make all the other feelings so much harder to deal with. i'm also really sorry about all the other things you're dealing with. *sending strength and hugs if okay* 🫂

@exuberantTalker9747

Hello. I think it is great you are asking such important questions. And I hope neither you, nor someone of people close to you is coming through this "dark valley" now (you know the 7Cups policy - if the situation looks serious, we may redirect you to professionals or emergency hot lines).

Recently, I have been keen on this subject and I've read an excellent book by Kathryn Hope Gordon about suicidal thoughts.

I believe it can be a combination of all things that you mentioned: physical (like depressive moods or disabilities), social (isolation), emotional (persisting emotional pain), mental (reportedly the worst thing might be having no hope for a better future).

It can be also a great philosophical dilemma: God's exclusive right to give and take away our lives vs. human rights for freedom of choice and dignity.

In one of the daily reflections books concerning recovery from the alcohol addiction I've found the following phrase: "A suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem". I must say I like it very much 😊 

On a personal level I think that self-destructive thoughts might have a lot of connection to the human ego. When you stop to live for yourself and start to live for your children, your partner, friends, a terminally ill family member or other people in need such thoughts may just... vanish.

On the scientific level, some people think that humanity's desire of self-destruction might be embedded in us as a "software error" from the moment we came to this planet. However, our "collective mind", telling us to stay together and do good things seems to be stronger.

@exuberantTalker9747 Whatever the reasons are that lead to a complete loss of hope, the pain doesn't go away after a suicide, it just gets transferred to others.  There are few things in life so tragic to hear as the news of a person taking their own life.  It grieves everyone to a greater or lesser degree - even those who didn't know the person.  I've been at that point - through post natal depression, bullying, physical & mental illness, domestic abuse, debt.  Often it's because I'm different (ASD).  When there is a perfect storm of problems that seem insurmountable.  I came back from the brink only because I reached out as a last resort.  That's why sites like 7 Cups are so important.

Hii. Crisis helplines would provide appropriate support when in need. I believe the drive behind suicide is often overwhelming emotional pain. There seems to be no solution or hope and it seems like they are pushed to the edge. So they are fighting for the minimum control over their lives. Oftentimes long term traumatic life events or an extremely distressing event. (Speaking from some experience) And traumatizing events can cause intense emotional pain often making one feel low most of the time and when they have to go through triggering stuff they get really anxious. Thank you for wanting to understand more about it