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LabeledBPD September 23rd

@bluelemon6419 sorry I’m not sleeping but i found a glitch in the matrix! I’d like to continue our conversation. 

I did try sleeping and have utilised methods that will kick in soon. Glad and hopeful though since stumbling on a place I’d have thought wouldn’t be permitted.

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blueLemon6419 September 23rd

@LabeledBPD Holly! I didnt even realise we could be pen pals. This is awesome!

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LabeledBPD OP September 23rd

@blueLemon6419

i didn’t know this was a possibility, but wasn’t going to give up! 

It’s a strange corner of one of the 7cups.. one that kinda blew my mind to it being allowed.

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blueLemon6419 September 23rd

@LabeledBPD I am so happy about this Holly, thank you for setting this up. Now i can check in with you at proper times. Thank you and I well hear you again very soon.

SummerKay2024 September 23rd

@LabeledBPD

I wanna join please 

Kay🐡✨️✨️✨️✨️

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LabeledBPD OP September 23rd

@SummerKay2024

yes!! I didn’t know your full name , like sun is up and sky is blue… 

of course you can

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SummerKay2024 September 23rd

@LabeledBPD

Yay 💛💛💛✨️✨️✨️✨️

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blueLemon6419 September 23rd

@SummerKay2024 Hey Hey Kay! It's good to see you!

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SummerKay2024 September 23rd

@blueLemon6419

I Want to keep in touch with you too blue 💙✨️✨️ I love seeing you guys 

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LabeledBPD OP September 23rd

It’s insane! I was really like hmm… don’t tell me not to look because guess what I’m gonna do when I get a hostile vibe from the group (thing you see first, thread name maybe?) .

some people on here are minors.. and idk if that’s a glitch but it’s definitely concerning. I thought maybe it wouldn’t work me setting it up because of that but well here we are.


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blueLemon6419 September 23rd

@LabeledBPD This is great. It seems to be perfectly ok and I'm really glad I have an asynchronous way to communicate with you that doesn't require you being online at super late times. Thank you for figuring this out Holly. I hope today is a better day than yesterday. 

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LabeledBPD OP September 23rd

@blueLemon6419

it is a better day than yesterday as this place now exists. Was asked by the guy I am mentioning what’s wrong with you today, you alright, you seem (inserts big word)? i asked him if he even knew the meaning of the word and his reply was (not taking things in). All i remember is the word started with a d.

ive a picture i rescued from the kids dads Friday of my eldest. It’s on the school took of him but i put it on the fridge Saturday. Nobody at my bbq, recognised him, and I understand. He looks normal….. he looks as he should. It’s all I want  more than anything and would give everything. I still don’t even understand how they got a picture with him upright without supports. So now when I go to the fridge I break. Even remember it’s on there hurts as it’s leaving the safe small part of my head I live in.


How are you blue? How are you feeling in relation to fear?

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blueLemon6419 September 24th

@LabeledBPD Hi Holly, I'm still figuring out how to follow replies in the thread so I missed this one. I'm glad you have that picture but it sounds so bittersweet. To be able to see the could have been sounds equally beautiful and painful, I don't know if Im explaining that well. Its afternoon for you so I hope your work day went or is going well. Thank you for checking in even while dealing with your own things. Im not a complete mess like I was over the weekend so progress.

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

@blueLemon6419

like you I’m struggling with all this and I missed this one! 

😞

I’m glad you have gotten slightly better x.

yeah the picture sucks, it’s a sharp knife to the stomach every time I see it. 

Do I remove it? Feel the pain for hiding his picture. 

You know I live in a small part of my head to survive and this drags me out of there want full or not.

i care so deeply about all you guys. I will always wonder how you are even if not given to opportunity to ask. 

Work… ha… mentoring is growing boring and i feel bad by saying one customer was crazy but really they were. I tried accommodating best I can but unfortunately it couldn’t go ahead so easy day. 

Hope your work went well. I don’t know how you deal with the emotional toll such a job may have on you. 

Stay safe blue! 

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blueLemon6419 September 24th

@LabeledBPD regarding fear it's a same old same old kind of situation. The pap smear was pretty triggering even with the valium. It messed with me more than I wanted to admit and I underestimated my recovery time.  I'm glad I got it done though. I'm also glad I have this space here now. It feels safer to share that kind of thing over here than in the group chats.

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

@blueLemon6419

im glad you like and find this place a comfortable and supportive one. I really understand how difficult Pap smears are, I’m sorry it’s taking longer than expected to overcome it. I hope your fear and distress such intimate medical tests cause was treated with impeccable professionalism and outstanding empathy and compassion. 

It is done now and I’m sure you know you did the right things as nobody would put themselves through so much if they didn’t. You are really brave 💛💛

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blueLemon6419 September 23rd

Hey @thesunisuptheskyisblue did this tagging work? can you see this in your notifications?

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LabeledBPD OP September 23rd

@blueLemon6419

yes.

It did for me

LabeledBPD OP September 23rd

@blueLemon6419

i gotta get used to this format… I will make mistakes. Stupid me… I hoped it worked for sun

TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue September 23rd

@blueLemon6419

yes! 🥰

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LabeledBPD OP September 23rd

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue

welcome!

SummerKay2024 September 23rd

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue

Yay sun ✨️✨️✨️💛✨️✨️

blueLemon6419 October 2nd

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue Hey hey I havent seen you around as much. I got to read the hip physio post but it said no replies so I just hearted it. I hope you are ok. Im pretty bad with social cues especially online via text so if it's a you need space thing don't hesitate to let me know. Be well Sun💛💖🌞

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@blueLemon6419

thanks for checking on me bluey 💜💜💐💐💧💧 it means a lot to me that you’d think of me/notice my absence. I’ve been having a hard time. So much has been going on.  I don’t want to catch up in threads , my head is not very clear , but I’ll see if I find you in the chats now or soon💜

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blueLemon6419 October 2nd

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue I missed you a lot and im sorry to hear it's because of a hard time. I wish there was more i could do. you deserve the world Sun. I delayed posting to ask about you since saturday because i didn't want to be pushy. Im rooting for you and I hope being here helps and things get better. don't feel pressured to give any update unless you feel it will be helpful to you. i love you. i have to go but i will definitely check back in after i wrap up.

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LabeledBPD OP October 2nd

@blueLemon6419 it’s so heartwarming that even in a tester of a potential space it helps all those in need. 


Bringing people together in an otherwise isolated and lonely world yet connected technologically more than ever, in the aid of being there for people whilst providing all resources in your arsenal must draw comfort. 

A bit of humanity goes much further than anyone can ever contemplate. 

We are all in life together regardless of distance between ourselves and situations. 

Life can be scary and frightening but it gets easier knowing someone is on your side and that is my whole interpretation of the Eg. 
Not frightened to ask and allow different difficult perspectives but ther unconditional and with the ultimate goal of helping.



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LabeledBPD OP September 23rd

What about a extension-EG family thread also?

One where people can share, and nobody needs to ask or feel uncomfortable joining because the title of this one was done at 2 am and without thinking ahead. It’s probably not best recreation or extension of EG garden.

The EG thread will have rules but only to show respect to everyone and don’t spam or something like that. 

Just a thought. Anyone think it would be a good idea?

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TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue September 24th

@LabeledBPD

I think it's a wonderful idea 💜

blueLemon6419 September 24th

@LabeledBPD I think a update/explore/catch up thread is an excellent idea. Im still very excited we even have this space. 

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

@blueLemon6419 

me also…. Definitely lightened a rather gloomy world.

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

@LabeledBPD

this is odd reply to myself but it’s kinda just the original thought and message…. 

I am happy to start it but will want to finalise real rules. The rules I’ve mentioned previously but also just be sure that it’s enough to keep the thread maintaining a positive aspect to our lives. 

If anyone else wants to do it , I don’t mind. 

Regardless of who what why or when, as long as the space provides even a fraction positively the EG garden did, it will be a good day

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blueLemon6419 September 24th

@LabeledBPD I like the rules you suggested. The only thing i would ask for is that we try to share 1 thing we are thankful for each update. small or large or in between. just anything we can find to be grateful for. they are hard to come by and seeing each others glimmers might be helpful. but in a no or low pressure kind of way. if a day is *** it's *** and that is welcome too.

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blueLemon6419 September 24th

@blueLemon6419 sorry forgot the censoring again 

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

@blueLemon6419

censoring to me… the system handles that’s. I can handle a few ******* I hope others can also. No need to apologise. 

Expressing one’s self should not be confined. We are all adults and I go back to **********. Hardly a crime. 

Some of the stuff that goes on here makes ********* blush.

I don’t know if there’s anyone I can contact as although it’s mild I’d not want it closed down. For now though going of the current president… you are just fine.

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

@blueLemon6419

love the idea! The welcomed / advised but no pressure just recommend gratitude/thankful adding paragraph, or sentence. Helps with grounding and perspective, but as we all know those times aren’t always viable, seen or accessible. 

Definitely should be included. Thank you for such thoughtful idea… feel free to keep them coming before we embark on a new chapter.

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blueLemon6419 September 24th

Good morning guys,

I hope today is better than yesterday for us. Thank you for having my back and I hope you also feel supported as you navigate today. Sending good vibes and love. 

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TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue September 24th

@blueLemon6419

good morning bluey💜 I hope you were able to get some rest.

I just got home from work, my shifts are pretty short right now, 7:15-10, sometimes 10:30. that’s breakfast. 

Even though my hip pain is back(not sure if you know about that bluey, I have an old thread about it) I did sign up to work breakfast and lunch next week, so hopefully that will add up for me monetarily. I get a random hour break between meals just cuz there’s nothing to do… so 7:15-10 and then 11:15-2:00. The hours vary how fast I work so.. I should work slower😝

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blueLemon6419 September 24th

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue Hey Sun🌞, it was good seeing you this morning. (I heard you mention it before but I will look for your post about the hip pain) Im glad you got through with work and I hope you find something nice to do that is relaxing.  I had a bit of a rough start today but things are settling. I think just residual stress from the weekend. 

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

Ok it’s burning on me… I need to share this with those who might benefit… final draft, very open to suggestions but I’m struggling not to just go with it…..




pen pal garden!

all invited to explore alongside a supportive community.

house rules.

no interrupting someone’s replies with anything other than internet to support exploration in a supportive manner.

no spamming the space or just being disruptive or disrespectful to anyone in anyway. (Ask yourself, would you appreciate your actions?)

finally.. 

we encourage and hope that if you are able, one sentence or part of your exploration can be drawn to gratitude, no matter how big or small. Nothing is insignificant. Keep in mind that although encouraged , it’s not mandatory, life really can be (put nicely, unbearably intolerable) so we understand. 

Welcome, glad to have you here!

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blueLemon6419 September 24th

@LabeledBPD I like it! I think its a great idea Holly, I just hope it isnt against some wierd unknown cups rule.

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

@blueLemon6419

me also blue… only one way to find out!

I am somewhat scared in taking such bold steps that what we have discovered will be shut down. That will hurt. 

I don’t know enough however to decide either way if such  exploration pen pal thread will be ok. I do think that the risks fully outweigh the benefits. That makes it difficult for me to contain such actions to create it. 

We are good people, supportive and a community. I really hope I don’t regret this . I’d regret it more though if it wasn’t attempted 

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TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue September 24th

@LabeledBPD

I like it as well holly 💜 I hope it catches on when it's started because it sounds like a really great idea. 

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LabeledBPD OP September 24th

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue

Thank you sun. This is a bit of a whirlwind and it unknown territory. Seeing a potential to utilise this space to dampen the recent hurt from the EG garden, alongside completely opening a different spectrum from the generic place we all found valuable. I’m gonna try.

we are all in what’s called life together, let’s fight, support and navigate not alone. 

Can’t wait to have a structured thread where people can continue the alliance against life even if virtual.

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LabeledBPD OP September 25th

Well I’ve attempted to determine as to if it will be ok such a thread.

i can’t see anything personally wrong as the whole apparent reason for this place is exactly what i propose. 

I don’t want i open the thread and people get hurt by it getting shut down, but how ironic on a MH site using a place as it’s designed for. I really hope this this is a success.

One rule that might be broken about being respectful for others (probably not best suited enforcement by me) but believe we have a 1% tolerance. 


Off to bed hopeful of what may begin tomorrow, for a first time in a long time. Goodnight all and be well 😊

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TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue September 25th

@LabeledBPD

I understand your fear about wanting to start it and it being shut down. it seems worth it for us to ask an admin if it's okay and then we can go into it feeling good.

also, I think its likely people will spam , or be confused, or have a hard time keeping up how the threads work. I think if we go into it knowing this will likely happen, we can way the pros and cons of having such a space and realize it will probably still be beneficial to have it and navigate those things, as opposed to not having it. 

take care holly 💜off to sleep for work tomorrow. praying for a better day 

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blueLemon6419 September 25th

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue good point Sun. I was looking around and saw threads as journals in the journals and diaries community as well where people were sharing a diary. the only other consideration is that group chat logs eventually disappear. threads will just sit there with no delete post option so people will have to be mindful of that and make sure they are comfortable with what they post chilling indefinitely, which shouldn't be a major issue as we are anonymous on here. Overall i think the idea is awesome and nothing ventured, nothing gained. 

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LabeledBPD OP September 25th

@blueLemon6419

absolutely very important point! It’s a different dynamic and more consideration to what’s shared it strongly advised due to it permanently on the internet.

can anyone delete the post to thread, if so who and when? I really would like to know that. I am thinking surly there must be a way due to, surely someone has posted something before that violates many rules that has been removed?? (Thinking to myself) need to find out. 

Not a rule just reminder. Stay anonymous! All posted here can be here forever! 

I’ve read some posts in this forum and the nature of some concerns me and am surprised still allowed. So the potential for things to remain regardless of how much it goes against terms of service need to be applied by us terms and conditions abiding humans. 

Really great point blue! Thank you

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LabeledBPD OP September 25th

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue

i have attempted to ask. Maybe I will get a reply but I will press on regardless.

what I would like to understand is if as you suggested, people spam what power there is to have them removed. 

I’ve done some reading on rules in the community threads and general behaviour points system. It’s not allowed and with assistance of effective reporting by us all and those in a position to implement such behaviour points. People I hope with bad intentions will phase out.

I don’t think currently many even know this small corner of one of 7 cups exists! That said those who find this space accidentally will be few, but those informed about it will be as beneficial in supporting others as they are were elsewhere, will using the platform to further growth.

blueLemon6419 September 27th

@TheSunIsUpTheSkyIsBlue Hey Sun, Much love and all the best with little man tomorrow. I am taking a break from cups for a few days or more. I really appreciate you and Im rooting for you. I hope to see you around when I get back. Be well. 

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blueLemon6419 September 25th

Good morning Holly, Sun and Puffer,

I hope you guys have a better day than yesterday. 

what I'm working on today: "We have two ears and one mouth, so we should listen more than we say." – Zeno of Citium.  

Im trying to listen more and more actively today. It's 3:20am so hopefully sunrise in a few hours and I will get a nice walk. I also noticed we made it to page 2 of this thread whoop whoop! Be well guys.

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LabeledBPD OP September 25th

@blueLemon6419

3:20 am!! Blue please sleep. Absolutely a means to brighten my day hearing from you, I hope you have had a wonderful day even if running low on sleep. I hope you have had a nice walk x

the two ears one mouth I’ve tried working on before. How are you trying to work towards that, and how’s it going?

Looking for tips… apart from shut up holly.

good evening all!!

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blueLemon6419 September 26th

@LabeledBPD i think i did ok listening yesterday. Im too tired to properly answer but i wanted to acknowledge that i saw this.

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