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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas September 29th

Hi @helgyafy @tinywhisper11 @mytwistedsoul

I hope you don’t mind me creating this thread. I’m sorry, I haven’t been online lately and I couldn’t find where we’ve chatted before. I think of you all often and the kindness you’ve shown me, and I wonder how you’re doing. I really hope you’ve been well. I’m sending you prayers. Please pray for or think of me too when you have a moment. Please let me know how you’ve been.

❤️

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Tinywhisper11 September 29th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas schroddingerscat?? 

How are you?

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 29th

@Tinywhisper11 I’m ok. How are you friend? I should probably try to check other threads before asking. I’m so behind. I really hope you’re ok.

PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 29th

@Tinywhisper11 Sorry I’m not sure who schrodingerscat is.

PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 29th

@Tinywhisper11 Oh you’re thinking I’m someone else maybe. I’m sorry, I haven’t been on the site in a couple weeks or months. This was a silly idea, I’m sorry. 

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Tinywhisper11 September 29th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas no no no I have been dreading a message from her, I'm sorry. I know who you are ❤❤ and I'm glad you remembered my name ❤❤❤ gives you a giant tiny hug ❤

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 29th

@Tinywhisper11 Oh no, I’m sorry you had a bad experience with someone here. I would feel nervous too and about getting a random message from them. There are some names here that are similar to each other and I get them mixed up too. ❤️

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Tinywhisper11 September 30th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas thanks for understanding ❤❤🙂

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 29th

I’m sorry I misspelled your name @helgafy

Tinywhisper11 September 29th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas oh wait I'm so sorry, she redone her account with a name similar to yours. 

where have you been hiding??? Where's my icecream??

Tinywhisper11 September 29th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas did you have a bad patch?? Is that why you left us? I hope you were gone, cause of a nice reason though ❤

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 29th

@Tinywhisper11 You’re sweet to ask. ❤️ Yeah, I’d describe it as a rough patch. Mostly depression and numbness. I’m ok though. 

The last time we talked you were having a lot of pain. How are you feeling lately? Is there anything special going on at the care home to celebrate Fall? I forget how many Guinea pigs you have. Have you been doing any new art projects?

PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 29th

@Tinywhisper11 also here’s a hug back and the ice cream I owed you. 🤗 🍦 😁

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Tinywhisper11 September 30th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas yaaay thanks for the hug and icecream😋 I'm doing ok ❤ I have 3 little piggies 😁 they make me so happy ❤❤ all the old folks here go home with their families around Halloween, their grandkids are of school for a week so it's just me left here, going around their rooms stealing 😏 only joking I would never do that😂😂😂

I'm sorry to hear about your rough patch🙁 maybe now we have little thread set up for us all, we can help you get through if you ever start going downhill again ❤ I'm always here for you my friend ❤ you can share anything here ❤

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mytwistedsoul September 30th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas It's nice to see you again. I remember we spoke about a listener problem you were having. I think the thread was removed shortly afterward. I had hoped I didn't say anything to offend or upset you. 

I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough patch. Numbness and depression can be heavy to deal with alone. So I don't think this was a silly idea at all. 

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Tinywhisper11 September 30th

@mytwistedsoul soul you are the sweetest person here ❤ I don't think you could ever offend anyone ❤

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mytwistedsoul October 1st

@Tinywhisper11 I think you're the sweetest! I can actually be rather offensive when need be. Thank you though. ❤️

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 30th

@mytwistedsoul Hi friend. That’s so nice that you remembered the issue we last talked about. That was the thread I remembered you from. I’m sorry I made you worry. You did nothing wrong at all and were nothing but kind to me. I started to worry if that listener would see my complaint and that I might cause trouble. I contacted the help desk and asked them to delete the thread. I actually asked them to delete a couple threads. I sometimes am nervous about people from my life running across things I’ve written and it causing problems. I’m trying not to be so anxious about this in the future, but I still want to be careful about not saying too much. That’s part of why I am away for periods sometimes. I feel guilty for complaining, or I don’t know how to talk about it the way I need to while still being anonymous.

Because I have deleted threads or can’t find them, it’s prevented me from talking more with people who were nice to me. That was my motivation to create this thread. I’ve never met people who had such a nice way of being. So I wanted to ask how are you?

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mytwistedsoul September 30th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas I can understand that you wouldn't want to cause trouble or risk that listener coming across what was said. It's also understandable that you would want to be careful with what you share, in the event that someone you know would come across them. We all have moments that we need to vent or complain about, that's one of the side effects of being human. I do hope that your anxieties subside and you eventually feel more comfortable with things you need or want to talk about. That hopefully, this can become an oasis or safe haven for you. 


In all honesty, this has been a rough year. Similar to what you're dealing with, depression and numbness have been a constant. It is grief related and it's been hard to process. I do appreciate you asking, thank you. 

You know @Tinywhisper11 she is our resident light and love spreader here on Cups. A part of me is convinced that she is an angel in disguise, but beware, she also has a wicked sense of humor! :)

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 1st

@mytwistedsoul I’m sorry you deal with the depression and numbness too. Maybe it’s similar for you, but I don’t always know which one I’m in until a while after. It seems to be a repeating cycle. I feel sad for a while like I’m trying to figure out why I’m so horrible, then it settles into a numbness of I don’t care and I’m just trying to avoid whatever? Then there’s some anxiousness in there too somewhere. I think I might have a day where I think I’m ok, then something surprises me. I’m sorry, I shouldn’t say all that and project my stuff. I hope it lessens for you. You are a good soul.

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mytwistedsoul October 1st

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas It is similar and it does seem to be a cycle. There is also that occasional "good" day where it doesn't feel as heavy, but it never seems to last. 

Some of the numbness could just be from the overwhelm of emotions, our brains decide we need a break from big emotions. Or perhaps they're shut down because they're considered "unacceptable"? There are some people who feel that negative emotions (eg: anger, sadness, fear, guilt) shouldn't be shown. 

Please don't apologize, I don't think you were projecting, you were just sharing some of what you're dealing with in relation to the depression and numbness. :) Have you dealt with this for a long time?
I hope it lessens for for you also. May we all see brighter days. 
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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 1st

@mytwistedsoul Thank you. ❤️

Some of it has been as far back as I can remember. I had a lot of anxiety and fear as a kid. I didn’t know then, but now I see that I had depression as well, like a confused sadness about why things were happening. The anxiety went down in my adult years somewhat, but it is the worst it’s ever been now. The depression is different now, I’m not sure how to explain. I think I like myself, except when I think about how other people see me. I’m older and can’t see my way out of some of the problems I’m having now. It’s hard to explain the reasons I think that. What’s been happening for a while now is this ongoing buildup of fear and hopelessness, where I get overwhelmed like you mentioned and I shut down. Or I have these times where I change and think all my problems are just me, and I get confused and overwhelmed and shut down because of that. This numbness is recent. I used to enjoy thinking and talking things out to make things better, but now I avoid as much as possible. 

How about you? Have you dealt with it a long time?

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mytwistedsoul October 4th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas You are very welcome. :) 


From what I've read here, you've also had a toxic upbringing, Unfortunately childhood trauma can last a lifetime. There could be things happening now that could be setting off childhood alarms. If you feel unsafe, not just physically but emotionally and mentally as well, that could be setting off the fear and anxiety. You've also said that you can't see your way out of some of the problems you're having. If you're feeling trapped, that would add to the fear, anxiety and hopelessness. Do you know or have methods to help calm yourself? Although, I'm afraid that they would only be momentarily helpful if you're in an unsafe situation. 
 The shutting down is your brain and body trying to protect you. If you're trying to talk things out in the hopes of making things better and it's not being received well, that would add to the shutting down. You have all these big emotions but you have nothing you can do with them and they stay trapped inside because it feels safer to hold them in. If you haven't already read, "The Body Keeps Score", you may want to give it a look. It covers numerous things but I must also advise a TW because some things discussed may be distressing to read. 

As with you, the depression has been for as long as I can remember. The numbness is worse than it's ever been. In the past, it was a few days here and there. Now it's constant. 

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Tinywhisper11 October 1st

@mytwistedsoul gives you a giant tiny hug ❤❤ I'm always here for you ❤❤ 

And my humour is never wicked or childish... This message was wrote to you from inside tinys pillow fort😁

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mytwistedsoul October 1st

@Tinywhisper11 gives you gentle hugs ❤️ Thank you! You are a bright light in the darkness. Always so kind and gentle. Your sense of humor is a wonderful blessing. ❤️ Much love to you  Tiny! 

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Tinywhisper11 September 30th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas helgafy has tagged you in a couple of posts ❤ I'm not sure if you've seen. But this was definetly not a mistake to make this thread the fab four are back together ❤❤ yep that's what we are called now, the fab four

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP September 30th

@Tinywhisper11 Thanks Tiny. ❤️ I logged on and saw them yesterday but then lost a chance to respond. I have an unpredictable living situation and sometimes have to log off here quickly. I was actually just trying to look for those threads again when you wrote just now, but I’m not very good at finding threads. I wish the notifications wouldn’t disappear once I click on them. 


Anyway, I did get to read that you recently had surgery to help with the pain. I hope your recovery gets better each day. You are in my thoughts often even when I don’t log on here, and I will be praying for you. Your Guinea pigs sound so sweet.

Thank you for being so nice and helping me feel like I matter. I hope I can be of some help to you as well.
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Tinywhisper11 October 1st

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas of course you matter ❤ and yep! I'm always in and out of this site to. So I understand a unpredictable life ❤ I think ❤ 

Oh by the way.... Pinch, punch first of the month 😁 I win 😁

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Helgafy October 1st

Hi dearest woman.

I found you again. I'll read a bit of what is written here later. Here is a fine

Bibleverse for us, Jesus Christ preaching: John 14:27 Peace I

leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give

to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts

be troubled and do not be afraid.

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Tinywhisper11 October 1st

@Helgafy Amen ❤❤

PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 1st

@Helgafy Thank you for this. This is one of my favorite verses. It gives me some peace to try to take my focus off what’s happening in my life. I have to keep reminding myself to stop looking for comfort from the world. But it gets confusing too. God wants us to love one another, so I think He must want me to feel loved at some point. Maybe we are supposed to have a loving detachment? The challenge for me is understanding what that looks like in everyday life.

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Helgafy October 2nd

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas

Of course God wants us to feel loved. You should feel loved by your husband (but maybe there is a problem there - I think you talked of that before.) From your children you should also get some love, but children can be to and from with their love (of course). I hope Jesus Christ can touch your inner core and tell you that you're loved. (Maybe you should tell yourself each day; "I'm worthy, I'm loved.")

1 John 4:10-12 

This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 2nd

@Helgafy I should use a different word. You are right, I do feel love from my kids. I think what I had searched for is comfort or nurturing from others. Like a parent or friend to talk to, support me, give me loving advice. I get very confused about what’s right and wrong that happens to me. I wish for someone to clear it all up for me so I can stop being tormented constantly by my own thoughts. I read my Bible, and sometimes it helps my confusion, but other times I feel more confused on what I’m supposed to do to help myself.

How have you been feeling lately? How is your health?

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Helgafy October 2nd

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas

Hi - thank you for writing.  What about seeing a therapist and talk over with him/her about your feelings/thoughts? Maybe a fine listener at 7Cups also can help.

About me: I'm not depressed these days. What's important to me is to watch the news. I also recently found YouTube at my TV. Very nice for me - music, politics about the presidentselection in USA and wonderful prayers read while different landscape is showing behind. "God helps" they're called.

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 2nd

@Helgafy It makes me so happy to hear that the depression isn’t bothering you lately. ❤️ You’re a wonderful person to be here supporting others and spreading the Good News. I’m glad you’ve been finding these nice activities for yourself.

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Helgafy October 3rd

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas

Hi friend.

I looked a bit more into what you wrote - about being comforted. I don't know if this Bibleverse is good for you - maybe you can lean on some of the words:

Isaiah 40:1-5 

Comfort, comfort my people, says your God. Speak tenderly to Jerusalem (Piecesof..), and proclaim to her that her hard service has been completed, that her sin has been paid for, that she has received from the LORD’s hand double for all her sins. (Please Piece - I don't say you're a BIG sinner). A voice of one calling: “In the wilderness prepare the way for the LORD; make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain. And the glory of the LORD will be revealed, and all people will see it together. For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.”

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 3rd

@Helgafy Thank you. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ It means so much that you would spend time looking this up for me. It really does help.

Most of the time I feel comforted knowing Jesus’s words of forgiveness. I feel very sorrowful for my mistakes and have asked Him to forgive me, and I believe He already has. Every once in a while I worry that I have forgotten something or that I’m ignorant of some things I do. So I try to ask forgiveness for my oversights also. So whenever I have that fear I remember His promises. 

Even with God’s forgiveness, there are still real ramifications on Earth that I get upset thinking about. This makes it a challenge for me to forgive myself, even knowing God does. But if I think of other people having similar thoughts as me, I feel sad and want them to feel better. I try to think the same for myself. I want to learn from these things but not be stuck in a prison of my mind the rest of my life.

Thank you for being a spiritual friend for me, Helga. 

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Tinywhisper11 October 2nd

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas love is indeed a strange thing. The love our parents were supposed to install in us, is how we grow with love. But when that doesn't happen. Just gotta learn the hard way I guess. Did you have a decent childhood? I think the best we can do is follow our hearts, but take your brain along with you ❤❤ gives you a giant tiny hug ❤

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 2nd

@Tinywhisper11 hugging you back ❤️

My childhood I was mostly scared all the time. I can remember playing and being a kid in that way, but it was always hiding, so I wouldn’t be seen or heard. My parents, I don’t really know what was going on with them. Just a lot of abuse and destruction. I think people outside knew, but it was all a big secret. I’ve always been looking for what I needed from them. I know it’s not going to happen, but I still want that kind of love. I feel bad that I can’t ever get to a place where God’s love and loving myself is enough for me. I’ve put myself in a lot of bad situations thinking I was accepted by people. My childhood set me up badly, but my current suffering is my own fault. If I know something doesn’t feel right but make excuses to go along with it anyway. I try to be understanding of everyone, so I ignore warning signs. I say that, but then I think maybe I’m not entirely sure if there is anything bad at all, and it’s just my thinking that’s wrong.

How has your pain been today?

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Tinywhisper11 October 3rd

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas my pain levels are only a little bit higher than normal. Still no feeling in my upper left body. But I'll be ok ❤

I think it all stems from your childhood, having a bad childhood really messes your brain up. It's not something you can forget, and it definetly can influence our adult choices. Searching for love and acceptance from your family, is only natural. Me I've found the only love I need, is the people on here, my friends and chosen family ❤ moving on from the past isn't easy 🙁 bless you. But remember you are in control of your life now, so find the connections/relationships that matter and are not toxic and perhaps try to hold on to those people. I know that's easier said than done, when we suffer from mental health

gives you a giant tiny hug ❤❤ I'm here for you, we all are ❤❤

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 3rd
@Tinywhisper11 I’m sorry the pain is still higher than normal. I’m glad you’re getting lots of rest and are able to come here to chat with your friends. So the doctors are not expecting the feeling to come back to your upper left body? I’m sorry if you’ve always been asked this question a hundred times. Have you been able to sit outside at your spot with Joshua lately? You don’t have to answer any of my questions. I just want you to know I care, and I wonder how you’re doing. 

Talking with people here really helps me too. ❤️ There are so many loving souls here. Sometimes I think I don’t find people like this out there because maybe people out there are too afraid to be vulnerable face to face. I don’t think I need more than the love I get here. I like volunteering and helping others here and out there, and that makes me feel fulfilled. The trick for me at this point I think is like you said just getting rid of the toxicity. 
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Helgafy October 3rd


@mytwistedsoul

Hi mytwist.
I think maybe the small, blue bird is exhausted. He just flew to my pillow in my bedroom and fell down on his back with his wings stretched out and his feet stretched against the ceiling. I think he just wants to rest there in the cosy warmth beside me, being comforted and having some rest. I give him (you) a small snack, a worm to eat.  
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mytwistedsoul October 4th

@Helgafy Hello friend Helgafy ❤️ Thank you so much for allowing this tired little bluebird to rest on your comfortable pillow in peace and comfort. It must have been quite the sight to see, with those little feet pointed towards the ceiling! Thank you so much for the snack! Sending much love to you ❤️

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Helgafy October 3rd

Pieces.

Are you interested in who will be the next president in USA?

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 3rd

@Helgafy I am. ☺️ I don’t talk about it a whole lot, because people are so divided. I can see good and bad on both sides, so I like listening to everyone’s views.

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Helgafy October 5th

@PiecesOfWhoeverIWas

Hi to you Pieces.

About the choosing of president; Both Iam and Mytwist said the same as you. 
I hope this will be a good day for you. Today I'll write some words about myself. When I was 18 I started at the uni. to become an engineer in chemistry. I studied for 4 years. Then my sickness came (mentally tired) and I could not study anymore. I was a lower grade of engineer - that is OK. If you take the diploma you have a higher grade of engineer. (I could work until I became 50 years old).
So I went travelling in Europe for 8 months. I went for some time to l'Abri in Switzerland -  a place to study Christianity founded by an American, Francis Schaeffer. There I met an American girl, Kathleen (Christian). We kept in contact - on and off until 4 years ago. I said to her (usually I talk softer - not talking so much about the devil, etc.) "Donald Trump is lying like the devil." After that she would not be in contact with me. She said that the election was stolen.  

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PiecesOfWhoeverIWas OP October 6th

@Helgafy Oh, I’m so sorry you lost contact with your friend. 😔 My heart goes out to you. I have heard a lot about politics ripping apart families and friendships. I have seen this as well. When I sense that someone is very passionate on one side or the other, I will typically stay quiet, listen, and then maybe offer some gentle neutral comments. I’ve found that most people already feel strongly about what they believe, and I’m not going to sway anyone. The ones who are independent are fiercely independent by choice and also don’t want my opinion. 😁 We feel a duty to help in good intentions, but people will feel their beliefs and way of life are being attacked. 

We live in an era where there is little calm, logical cooperation. People don’t respect each other like they used to. People will talk about it and say that’s what we need, but they will immediately point to the other side and say it’s their job to back down first. No one will be the first anymore to genuinely step toward the middle, other than fake displays and empty words to appease their followers. There’s no meeting in the middle where everyone wins a little. There was at one time, but I think people started to realize in more recent history that when they thought they were working together, there were some players sneaking in their agenda anyway. It got to a point where some bad policies can never be fixed without revolt or another depression. The country is very different than it used to be. Presidents make all kinds of executive orders now, bypassing our congress who should be handling those things. And people accept it because it’s become normalized now, they don’t realize it wasn’t always that way. Checks & balances were designed into America for that reason. It became a slippery slope, where an inch was given but a mile was taken slowly through loopholes. America was a republic, but it is now an emotional mob form of democracy. When one side wins, the other side feels it loses everything. And so everyone becomes extremely distressed and fearful. I don’t know how we’re going to fix that, because politicians and our news media propagate it. Be very careful watching the news, because it is rife with tone and little comments inserted. I would always consult multiple sources, and even then read between the lines. If we can see the politicians talk to each other as if they honor each other’s humanity, recognize that they both have good ideas, and work together to pass simple policies that transparently include both sides, then I think eventually the public will come back together as well. As it is, the ruling class here benefits too much from the drama. They know people can be manipulated by fear. They both do it. I do not like career politicians. I have more trust for those that worked in some other field before entering Washington. And I think after serving a couple terms they should go back to their civilian lives.


Donald Trump definitely does have some personality issues I don’t like. I’m sure he is narcissistic. I have found this to be true in one way or another about a lot of politicians or people in power. (For example our friend’s rude surgeon.) There are some personalities who are very gruff and hurtful but are great in their field. Some politicians appear more polite, kind, and to have good values but behind closed doors are absolutely conniving and mean. That quiet, covert pulling of strings scares me. One thing I can say I like about Donald Trump is that good or bad what I see is what I get. 😅 That said, I like his VP JD Vance better. 😊 I think Harris seems like a decent person who wants to help the less fortunate. I don’t agree with some of the policies she’s called for in the past. They sound good emotionally on paper, but in reality some of them are the kinds of things that have devastated countries in the past and led to dependence on oppressive government regimes. What I’ve learned about American elections is that everyone on both sides tries to appear as moderate as they can. Before and after the election, they will both go back to their respective poles. I listen very little to what they say on the campaign trail. I go by what they actually push forward (or decide not to).

So many political issues that people think are more recent disagreements are deeply rooted in world history. Americans traditionally have an individualistic, independent foundation of thinking, but we are starting to become more community minded. American identity is built on the idea that no one can decide what’s best for them, force how to live, or control how they spend their money. The crux of American elections and ideologies really comes down to how much the people want government in their lives (the comfort of the government taking care of things vs the choices available without government oversight). I believe this is usually more important to our voters than the candidates’ personalities. This is on both sides, just about different issues. Many people asked back during the Clinton presidency how anyone could still support him after all the things he did, but the answer then on that side too was that his policies were more important than his personality flaws. People just forget that now when they’re looking at the other side. Everyone needs to stop seeing each other as evil and diminishing their status as a fellow child of God.
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