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How to Know a Person

User Profile: PineTreeTree
PineTreeTree December 24th

I saw this author talk about his book on Ewww-tube (I only said it like that because I think the word might get censored). The title is what grabbed me (see below with link). I have experienced seeing others more deeply (to a small extent) and it really did change at least what I know is possible with human connection. When you’re able to see others deeply they respond in wonderful ways. Tagging  @tryingtosurvive2024

How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen


https://youtu.be/YwENbKn3tqI?si=i8kCXYVpkSf2WzBw

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User Profile: Tinywhisper11
Tinywhisper11 December 24th

@PineTreeTree ewwwtube haha!😂😂😂 I'm not allowed to use ewwwtube, so I can't click that link. But I believe through listening and kindness, and a bit of goofyness and honesty we can learn a person most ❤ wow! That's quite a long list to  get to know someone. Maybe we should just shake hands and call it a day😁

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User Profile: tryingtosurvive2024
tryingtosurvive2024 December 24th

@Tinywhisper11  Or you could just walk up to them and give them a hug.  😊

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Tinywhisper11 December 24th

@tryingtosurvive2024 hugs are much better 😁 ❤ rolls up to you and hugs you tightly ❤

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tryingtosurvive2024 December 24th

@Tinywhisper11  I think you ran me over.  🤗

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Tinywhisper11 December 24th

@tryingtosurvive2024 😂😂😂😂😂 my brakes don't work to good in these icy conditions😂😂😂♿♿♿♿♿

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User Profile: tryingtosurvive2024
tryingtosurvive2024 December 24th

@Tinywhisper11  I once told a woman, (online) if you want a man all you got to do is get a tranquilizer.  Find a man you like, and ....  😜  

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Tinywhisper11 December 24th

@tryingtosurvive2024 tranquilizer🤔🤔🤔 don't put ideas in my head!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂

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User Profile: tryingtosurvive2024
tryingtosurvive2024 December 25th

@Tinywhisper11  Don't worry. That is just my sense of humor.  🤗  I think you should just stick to running them over.  Just kidding!  😉

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Tinywhisper11 December 25th

@tryingtosurvive2024 😂😂😂 to late I just bought myself a tranquilizer gun😂😂😂 I'm glad I have lots of room in my basement😁😁😁

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tryingtosurvive2024 December 25th

@Tinywhisper11  I think you are a very sweet Woman, and whoever gets tranquilized, is a lucky man!  💖

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Tinywhisper11 December 25th

@tryingtosurvive2024 😂😂😂😂😂😂 your so sweet ❤❤

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tryingtosurvive2024 December 25th

@Tinywhisper11  I have been thinking about writing a post about that.  Because currently there is 2 people online that call me "Sweetie" and one of the two almost calls me that exclusively.  If you start doing it, then that will make three people.  🤪  I enjoy being sweet.  But it takes the kindness of the other person to make that work in a full circle.  😊

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Tinywhisper11 December 26th

@tryingtosurvive2024 I call you sweetie, cause you are so sweet😋

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tryingtosurvive2024 December 26th

@Tinywhisper11  If I were any sweeter I'd be sticky.  😍

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User Profile: tryingtosurvive2024
tryingtosurvive2024 December 24th

@PineTreeTree  Thank you for thinking of me.  I will watch or listen to it.  But it will be a while since it is 57 minutes long.

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tryingtosurvive2024 December 24th

@PineTreeTree  While listing to it I thought about C.S. Lewis because I have many books by him.  I was thinking about Choosing Your Faith by Mark Mittelberg.  It is an audio book that I am re listening too.  Basically I agree with David Brooks.  But I think about the real world.  The world I live in.  If I was around people a lot, outside of work, then maybe his suggestions would work.  But I'm never around anyone outside of work anymore.  Grocery store but nobody carries on a conversation there.

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PineTreeTree OP December 24th

@tryingtosurvive2024 Not all rewarding human connections require conversation. Seeing others is a skill and it can give us opportunities we can’t imagine. Even in the grocery store! In fact it is a skill that is really easy to practice in places like grocery stores. 




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User Profile: tryingtosurvive2024
tryingtosurvive2024 December 24th

@PineTreeTree  I don't know what you mean.  Everyone is absolutely silent at my grocery store.  They don't make eye contact or anything.

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PineTreeTree OP December 24th

@tryingtosurvive2024 No one makes eye contact with anyone? At all? Do you live in a dangerous neighborhood?

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tryingtosurvive2024 December 24th

@PineTreeTree  Not dangerous just unfriendly.

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tryingtosurvive2024 December 24th

@tryingtosurvive2024  It feels like, once people got smartphones they became unfriendly.

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Tinywhisper11 December 25th

@tryingtosurvive2024 🤔🤔🤔 tis the season to be green... Steal all the phones and computers in your local area

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PineTreeTree OP December 25th

@Tinywhisper11 😂

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Tinywhisper11 December 25th

@PineTreeTree pine your the number 1 grinch 😂😂😂😂 you can give trying some tips😁😁

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User Profile: tryingtosurvive2024
tryingtosurvive2024 December 25th

@Tinywhisper11  What kind of tips?  🤔

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User Profile: PineTreeTree
PineTreeTree OP December 25th

@tryingtosurvive2024 Well their making eye contact or not may not be important. See if you can silently guess what they are feeling. Are they calm, tense, bored, anxious or some other emotion. See if your act of noticing them changes your experience of visiting the grocery store. But try to do this without any expectations of what will happen. 

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User Profile: tryingtosurvive2024
tryingtosurvive2024 December 25th

@PineTreeTree  I guess I should of said this earlier.  Even though He's got some interesting and many of the things He says is probably true.  It's too complicated for me to remember all that stuff.  I feel that people have become too complicated.  As far as the grocery store is concerned.  Honestly nobody cares.  I am there to buy stuff as quickly as possible.  Most of those people are probably feeling the same way.  Get in, find the stuff, and get out.

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PineTreeTree OP December 25th

@tryingtosurvive2024 Yeah I can see how that one talk probably gives too many general examples and not enough specific details. I don’t think people have become any more complicated since the bible was written. 

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tryingtosurvive2024 December 25th

@PineTreeTree  I'm not sure, I used to talk to an older Woman on a Christian forum.  She didn't attend Church anymore.  Her view was that people are getting worse and worse because we are living in the last days.  I agree that as each year goes by we get a little closer to the end.  I don't know what your views are on this.  Here is the scripture from the Bible that refers to what I am telling you about.

Read it and look at verse 12.  I put it in bold print.

Matthew 24

4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.


9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

I get the feeling that the love of many have grown cold.  Many seem to be more in loved with Money and Fame.  At least much of what I see online and in social media.

I think I should of used this passage of scripture in my post about NAR.

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PineTreeTree OP December 25th

@tryingtosurvive2024 It may be true that there are difficulties in connecting with others in today’s society. People want to be seen. That has not changed. If their hearts have less capacity for love it may be that they’re “wicked” but more likely most are just under a lot of stress and negative influence. If you offer your attention to others, your care, you are offering a gift that people are hungry for. They wish to be seen. Some will not respond but most will reflect that care back. But it probably takes being comfortable with our own feelings first (that’s a longer topic).


You’ve said you have a tendency to be negative. You desire human connection but then perhaps you find barriers baked into the problem itself. Yes there are challenges in building connection and relationships. There always have been. Perhaps turning biblical prophecy into self fulfilling prophecy isn’t helpful.
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User Profile: tryingtosurvive2024
tryingtosurvive2024 December 25th

@PineTreeTree  I don't know. Thank you for thinking of me.

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