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The Prayer Thread

DeborahUK June 27th, 2018

Hello 👋

Let me start by saying I know religion has played a negative role in some peoples lives. If thats you, this thread may not be a good fit for you, although you may want to involve yourself to explore your feelings a little more. I just ask that you do so respectfully - all are welcome.

I often notice comments around faith, God and prayers in the daily check ins, and I wonder if theres a need for a prayer thread where people can come together and seek comfort in a quiet corner of 7 cups. So here goes ...... a brand spanking new thread for all things prayer related.

I confess Im not the most devout of Christians, so please dont look to me to find the right words all the time. But if you just want to sit a while, connect with God, and share that need with another human being, Im here to sit with you. I hope others will add to this thread and it becomes a place for mutual support.

And as for other faiths, oh gosh. Im a complete ignoramus. But I hope this can be an inclusive and respectful thread, so please dont feel excluded, whatever your beliefs ❤️

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wittySpruce8187 July 20th, 2018

@DeborahUK

I noticed your username isn't showing up anymore so I just wanted to see if you're doing Ok? I understand it's not a big deal and all but if anything is going on or you need anything we're here to support you!

I also don't really understanding how that all works on 7cups so if I'm missing something obvious sorry!

cyanPlatypus6370 July 21st, 2018

Hi again all yous!

My professional support people team is slowly starting to fall back into place, I think. I've been encouraged to think about this one place/person/role very specifically. Why do I go there? Do I get any benefit from it? Do I *want* to continue? My most current person is in process of moving on and actually moving too, out of town. So I have been paired with a new-to-me person in that role. And so far, well from my side anyway, we are SO not a good match! Like very not well matched! Anyway, so I am now in the process of figuring out what to do with this agency - "do I stay or do I go?" (yeah I know - ha ha ha). While not really given to me as an assignment from my therapist, she did say, Platy these would be really good things for you to think about and maybe even to write about them.

So this all to say, would you pray for me in this decision? I will most likely either 1. ask for a different contact person or 2. tell them that I am leaving the agency now. Platy requests wisdom, strength, and bravery (stand up for self-ness!).

"God? Hey. You know this entire situation and how I do not like where it is right now. You know all of time and all of me, so You know even now how this will turn out for me in a month or two. Help me, God. Help me in this decision - that I might do what is best for me and that I might honor You at all times within this deciding time and actual decision. I am so thankful that You are ALWAYS with me. Thank you for that! Love, your child, Platy"

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wittySpruce8187 July 21st, 2018

@cyanPlatypus6370

Hey Platy ❤

I'll definitely pray for you and a good decision to what seems like a frustrating problem.

I really hope it works out with whatever you choose!!

rozie July 23rd, 2018

@cyanPlatypus6370

Yes with you in prayer Platy. x

ShawnEdgingtonLPC July 24th, 2018

@cyanPlatypus6370

Praying for God to give you guidance as you make decisions.

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July 21st, 2018

Hebrews 13:5-6

5. Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." 6. So we may boldly say: "The Lord is my helper; I will not fear. What can man do to me?"

GuardianAngel77 July 21st, 2018

Yes

July 22nd, 2018

Verse of the Day

He said to them, But who do you say that I am? Simon Peter answered and said, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Matthew 16:15-16 NKJV

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GuardianAngel77 July 22nd, 2018

@Macaiyla

Yes definitely!

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July 22nd, 2018

Psalm 27:1 New King James Version (NKJV)

"An Exuberant Declaration of Faith"

A Psalm of David.

27 The Lord is my light and my salvation;
Whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the strength of my life;
Of whom shall I be afraid?

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GuardianAngel77 July 22nd, 2018

@Macaiyla

Yes definitely!

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wittySpruce8187 July 23rd, 2018

The courage of the early Christians amazes me so much. I can't imagine how much fear and pressure they could have been under. Especially if you were a woman or a trauma survivor or a servant or slave or an outcast in any way.

It's heartbreaking but so beautiful like can you imagine these people, all they have ever been told and all they know if they were Jewish was the old Jewish ways to act to think to live. I'm not saying they were bad I think a lot of the traditions are beautiful I mean that was all they knew.

They may have known there would be a person coming as was prophesied. And then he comes

And everyone, the temple leaders everyone is like nope, He's not it. He's fake. And Judea is under stress enough from Roman occupation. It was really important to stand together as a United Jewish front against them.

But the early Christians were like nah, He's true. I still believe in Him. They and Jesus go through the horror of the crucifixion . And then they're threatened, beaten, banished.

So some of them leave their homes everything they know bc they believe in love they believe in this person who some of them never met.

Can you imagine. Like Mary she is a young girl so young and she's told she's going to give birth and she knows people are going to shun her she's almost stoned to death. And she has no example. Women gave birth to great leaders before but none of them without a human man.

And she does it. My pastor told me she thinks Mary had a choice and I hope so. Despite everything she did it. I don't know for sure what happened but that courage.

It's just beautiful!! Like I think of my mother who I think embodies the best of both worlds. It is so courageous to forgive people who hurt you. And I don't want to misrepresent people that's not fair I don't have much experience in current Jewish worship. But talking about specifically that time. Thousands of years ago when the Old Testament was happening and then those perspectives were passed down to Judea.

Life was violent. You had to be wary to survive. Life was sometimes literally a battle and I love the passion for justice in the Old Testament and in many Jewish faiths. And from my outside pov having being raised Christian and look how I look and what was kept from me for my safety, i still can understand the need to be judgy. Sarah Silverman said something about Jewish mother's show they love you by judging you. And it makes sense if you are constantly wary and constantly afraid bc of the oppression that has followed them for thousands of years, that's gonna stick. And I don't think judging is bad all the time. I get it.

Anyhow so I think my mom embodies lessons in both faiths (she's a proud Christian) as she's very aware, she knows how to survive and she forgives.

It amazes me imagining these people then. When all they knew was something different. Despite all the hurt from their community Just walking, the sun in their face smiling with this love. This new radical forgiving merciful love.

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wittySpruce8187 July 23rd, 2018

@wittySpruce8187

I included the duality of my mother's personality bc it makes me imagine like these people. They are 100% of their time, of their communities. No hindsight or new perspective or older family members to shape them in those ways.

And They are just like I am not afraid. Jesus loves you even you who hurts me and we are just people on Earth but I can see beyond that. All I will give is love and peace. And it's new and it's ours and it can be everyone's. That who I am.

Like dang.

But I also spend a lot of time imagining what history would be like and what my life would be like if the temple did accept Jesus. Would we all be together? Would my family have not gone through so much hurt and would people not see us as divided or separate people. Would we still be Jewish or Christian?

It makes my head ache after awhile. But I guess we can't change the past.

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themainjane July 23rd, 2018

@wittySpruce8187

wow. Just wow. Thank you for this contemplation. You are definitely a deep and honest thinker and Im honored that you shared a glimpse of that here.

It makes me aware that if they could face their struggles and you can face your struggles then I can face my struggles as well.

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wittySpruce8187 July 27th, 2018

@themainjane

💜💜💜

Thanks for reading. And yes we can all get through our struggles together (:

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FloweringBunny July 23rd, 2018

So I'm not sure if it's ok to post this here, but I'd like some advise about christianity.
I was raised christian, but left the church and faith when I was a teenager and no longer going to sunday school. I didn't fit in with the other teenagers, I was outcasted and bullied by some of them. My home situation was not good but my parents were active in the church and when I told someone in the church that there was emotional abuse going on nothing was done and it was as if I never said anything.
I'm not sure if God does exist, but if he does, why did he let it all happen? Why does he let people be hypoctrical christians? Other people I have tried to talk to about this don't understand, they either don't realise that abuse and trauma is real or they tell me that I'm angry at God.

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July 23rd, 2018

@FloweringBunny

I'm thankful to read this after I just finished reading Chapter 32 "Using What God Gave You" of The Purpose-Driven Life. There is a section of the chapter: "Examine your experiences and extract the lessons you have learned."

Review your life and think about how it has shaped you. Moses told the Israelites, Remember today what you have learned about the Lord through your experiences with him. Forgotten experiences are worthless; thats a good reason to keep a spiritual journal. Paul worried that the believers in Galatia would waste the pain they had been through. He said, Were all your experiences wasted? I hope not! We rarely see Gods good purpose in pain or failure or embarrassment while it is happening.

I hope this definitely helps you with the issue. Use that lesson, dissect it, and figure how you could use this to tell your story to someone else who may be experiencing the same thing. Christianity can definitely feel like you don't have a church home. Keep praying and speaking with God regardless of your church attendance. He will guide you where He wants you to be.

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FloweringBunny July 24th, 2018

@Macaiyla Thank you for your reply heart My parents have this book, I will see if I can borrow it.

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July 24th, 2018

@FloweringBunny

Aww, you're more than welcome! 😍

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Auckland July 24th, 2018

@FloweringBunny

Hello - Christians believe that God gave us free will, we all have a right to choose him and what we do with our lives. If he didn't give us free will then we would just be puppets with a predestined life and what would be the point of that? So what free will means is that people get to do whatever they want and that includes behaving badly. AND where there are people, there are going to be 'bad apples'. In countries, in businesses, in schools, and in churches. Christians who don't behave like Christians are either 1) ignorant of what it means to be a Christian 2) knowledgeable about what it means to be a Christian and choosing not be have appropriately or 3) just aren't thinking at all about what they are doing (mindless behavior).

Please do not measure Christianity on a single church and the bad behavior you experienced there. I am sorry that you experienced that. It isn't right and it certainly isn't Christian.

What you can do is read the bible, look online for lessons/videos on Christianity >> you can tell the good ones if they uplift you. e.g. www. rcspirituality.com is a good one. If you can get to other churches, go to them. You don't necessarily have to convert, but you can just go and pray to God for guidance. You know God is with you when you feel peace. Explore, learn and pray - God will do the rest.

A final note on your experience with unfriendly teenagers. 1) Make an effort to find your tribe/people with similar likes and who care about you (they celebrate your successes) 2) Read up on assertiveness and practice it 3) Read up on boundary setting.

While you will still encounter bad apples during your life, these things will prepare you for dealing with them. This is the lesson learned from your experience. And remember, other people's bad behavior is not a reflection on you.

Please come back here whenever you have a question or need support, that why this is here.

All the best.

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GuardianAngel77 July 24th, 2018

@Auckland

So true!!

FloweringBunny July 24th, 2018

@Auckland Thank you for replying heart It is very true that there are bad apples on every tree, but that the good outweigh the bad. I have been to my aunties church, it is much nicer there, I will try to find a church like hers.

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Auckland July 24th, 2018

@FloweringBunny I am so glad to hear you say this. Take care and God bless you!

GuardianAngel77 July 25th, 2018

@FloweringBunny

I am glad that you want to find a church like your

aunt's church!!😊😊😊!

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nolongerafraid July 24th, 2018

@FloweringBunny Hi Bunny, I am really sorry that your parents and your church family have hurt you, not helped you when you needed help and have not represented God at all to you.

God is nothing like them and I am pretty sure He is upset about that too because you, His little girl, have been hurt.

I do believe in God but I don't always represent Him well. I am human, and broken just like pretty much everyone in church. Including the leaders.

I hope that you would give God a chance to prove to you how much He loves you. All you need to do is ask. He promissed to answer if we do.

No strings attached. He is a gentleman, He won't force Himself into your life. But He will love you.

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FloweringBunny July 24th, 2018

@nolongerafraid Thank you Mas heart No one is perfect, I know there will be always be times when we don't stay up to our standards. It is just hard when some people repeatedly treat me badly, and at the same time claim to be good christians. I suppose God cares more about actions than claims.

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Auckland July 25th, 2018

@FloweringBunny

"I suppose God cares more about actions than claims." Yes, he sees all.

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July 27th, 2018

Good day, everyone! Just wanted to say hey to everyone and that I hope we're all doing fine in our Christian walk

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wittySpruce8187 July 27th, 2018

Hey everyone 💜💜💜

Truth be told I've kinda been avoiding this thread because I'm a very anxious person and judgment terrifies me.

But you all have been so kind and accepting idk what I was afraid of. I'm glad to be back.

How beautiful it is that we are all together not just this group but all 7cups putting all our worlds together in support.

And that I believe we go through life all together too I feel everything's connected

My mother and I have always had a strenuous relationship despite how close we are now. I still love her more than almost anything in the world. But there was a time where she didn't accept me or believe me about a lot of things. We hurt eachother a lot. After a very painful fight she somehow finally understood me and put all her (very severe it was not fun) judgement aside and said:

"(My daughter) do you really think God or Jesus loves you any less if you're a lesbian or bisexual? Do you think He loves you any less if someone stole your virginity? Do you think He loves us any less if we gay or Jewish or whatever? Because I don't. He knows what's in your heart."

And that was like a 360 from everything I thought I knew about my mom and I was amazed.

My point in telling this is I think the fear of judgment pulls us back from loving and being together fully. It does for me sometimes.

But we are all God's children. We are all sisters or brothers or siblings to Christ. We shouldn't be afraid.

Peace 💜💜💜

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nolongerafraid July 27th, 2018

@wittySpruce8187 Thanks for sharing.

I don't think any of us has a right to judge you for anything. I still need to meet the person that is without sin. (except Jesus)

I think your mom is awesome, I am so happy for you she chose to love you and accept you for who you are. That must be so healing for both you and your mom. heart

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wittySpruce8187 July 27th, 2018

@nolongerafraid

Thanks for reading!

That's true no one is perfect except Them.

(: that makes me happy, I think my mom is awesome too!

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July 27th, 2018

@wittySpruce8187

😍🤗💝💞

Your post warmed my heart! I don't know you personally but I want you to know you are loved! I love you, my sister in Christ!

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wittySpruce8187 July 28th, 2018

@Macaiyla

❤ thank you!

I love you as my sister in Christ too!

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KLM3278 July 28th, 2018

@wittySpruce8187

I'm glad you are your mother are back together. God sure does love everyone. I think a lot of people don't believe God loves them. That is the starting point I think. As for other things, there will be disagreement. But there should always be acceptance. That is sometimes lost. It seems any way. I can disagree with someone, but do so with respect and love. That is accepting a person. Like your mother said to you. I'm so happy for you that she isn't hurtful. ❤️ Keep praying and asking Jesus to be in your heart and life. I think when this happens we truly see His love and forgiveness for everyone. I'm so glad you shared this and again, I am so very happy things are better between you and your mother. ❤️Big safe hug if you want one ❤️

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rozie July 28th, 2018

@KLM3278

So agree klm with your words; I can disagree with someone but do so with repect and love I think this can make the difference if we can listen to another view and accept this with respect and love.As Jesus said.. "A new commandment I give unto you. that you love one another as I have loved you."

Missing you Deb.. you're in our thoughts and prayers.

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Auckland July 28th, 2018

@rozie What happened to Deb, she just disappeared. Is she ok?

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nolongerafraid July 28th, 2018

@Auckland Yes Auckland, she is ok. She will be back with us soon. 💖 I am sure she misses us the way we miss her.

We will just keep praying for the team and members and for communication.

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KLM3278 July 28th, 2018

@rozie

Yes ❤️❤️❤️❤️

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wittySpruce8187 July 28th, 2018

@KLM3278

Thank you so much! ❤❤❤

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