Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder

@compassion4you14

Thank you for sharing this with the community!

@SunFlower700

I'm glad that you found it worth reading!

@compassion4you14 Quite informative and helpful. Appreciate the initiative. Thank you. :)

@Tinyminy Thank you so much for the kind words.

@compassion4you14 wow, thank you for this awesome project! I know that OCD is a topic that most of people are not aware and I feel like this post can help them to understand it better. Also, it was my pleasure to help you with it a bit, even if I feel like I didn't do anything

I also like your discussion questions! I feel like I can't answer most of them, but I will try my hardest to think the answers to the ones that can be answered by me, so follow up

What part of OCD seems to be the most scariest? What helps you to reduce it?

I don't have OCD so I am not sure if I can answer this corectly but I feel like the most scariest part is the fact that it's an obsession. You can't quick that thought, you can't control it and it's all feels just so hopeless. It must feel scary and it must be hard when you are trying so hard but you can't do anything. On the other hand, I have heard and I believe that having some coping skills (like colorful beads that you need to organise by colours when you have attack or tiles counting, whatever works for you) can be useful. I don't know if that a thing to be honest

How can you help someone who has OCD?

I think that your post sum ups it pretty well... But I have a few points...

1) The most important thing is the same as with many of the mental heal illness - just don't assume that it's their fault or don't get mad when they are doing something you don't like. Always remember yourself that it's not they, it's their OCD talking...

2) I know it can be scary to see them during attack and you can have no idea what to do, listen what they say or do what it seems the best for you. As far as I know, it's always the best to listen them and follow they needs (unless you feel like they are in danger, then... stay to make sure that they are safe). Your friend, your relative or your loved one is already feeling bad about themselves and they don't need you to trigger them even more by doing something they can't take right now.

3) Don't talk about their OCD with other people. I know that maybe you feel like it's not a big deal but it's still a big stigma about mental illness in our society and they probably don't want others to know it. If they told you - congratulations, they trust in you enough, don't break this trust.

When do you think is the right time to seek treatment for OCD?

I feel that it should be done as early as possible as it's always easier to help someone when they seek earlier. But the sign that you really need treatment is when it's starts affecting your everydays life. OCD is not something that can't be controlled so don't let it stop you from living happy life

What are some myths/stereotypes that you have heard about OCD? What contributes to increasing the stigma attached with OCD?

Sadly, it's not being discussed a lot in my country, a lot of people still have no idea what it is, even the ones that are studying in first psychology course

@RaCat

First of all, thank you so much for helping me with this project and you know that I couldn't have been able to do anything without your help and support! I really appreciate it. Also, thank you for participating in the discussion.

I agree with you on the part that obsessions are very scary because a person does not have any control over them and compulsions are the only way to get a temporary relief (this is for those who don't have pure-o OCD). Talking about the coping skills, everyone has a different set of things that help them feel better. Some people may find arranging things in order or counting useful.

1) This is such an important point! One of the best things that someone can do for their loved one is to understand that they are not at fault for doing certain things as it is not in their control or something that they can snap out of.

2) I agree with this one. The person having OCD is already struggling a lot and they definitely wouldn't want something to trigger them further so it's best to listen to what they say and help them to feel better.

3) This is my favourite point and it makes so much of sense! If someone has told you about what they are struggling with, it means that they have put their trust in you and it's your duty to keep that trust and not tell about it to anyone unless you're sure that they won't mind. Something that does not mean much to you could mean so much to them.

That's right! When these obsessions and compulsions start to interfare with your day to day routine, it's best to seek the proper treatment.

It's sad to know that there is still so much of stigma and misconceptions regarding OCD. Many people still throw around this term a lot without realising how much it affects a person who's struggling with it. I feel that the lack of education contributes to the the incresing stigma attached with OCD.

@compassion4you14 hahah in my situation if someone mentions OCD everyone is like "what? what it is?" so they are not thorwing it too often. In one hand it's good because it's not become some adejctive, on the other hand... I feel that it even increases stigma so I am not sure

@RaCat

Sorting/organizing beads I think is more of a generalized anxiety coping method. It may help with some OCD types but would depend on what their triggers are...like a person who fears something being out of place may only feel more compulsive if they give themselves more things to feel compelled to sort...maybe in that case the exercise would be to not sort them despite wanting to?...

@compassion4you14 Thank you so much for this paragraph:

OCD is not an adjective. It is not an alternative for words like clean or organized. OCD is a noun. Its the name of a mental disorder. OCD is not being particular or a neat freak or an adjective that should ever be used to describe oneself. Every time OCD is used as a simple adjective, it contributes to the stigma. It validates the claim that mental illnesses are just inside the head of a person.

@tranquilForever23

It was very much required, in my opinion. People throw around this term a lot and awareness is important so that they understand that it is not an adjective. Someone 'IS' not OCD. Someone 'HAS' OCD. Anyway, I'm glad that you liked it.

@compassion4you14

Thank you for sharing that!

Its really helpful and learnt a lot!

@SmileyPower

I am so glad that you found it helpful and learnt new things. Thank you so much for taking your time out to read about it!

Very informative, thank you! Lovely project

When do you think is the right time to seek treatment for OCD?
Okay, I guess that it is when that person knows from a professional psychiatrist that they have the disorder. It would probably be better if they have multiple opinions from different doctors.

What are some myths/stereotypes that you have heard about OCD? What contributes to increasing the stigma attached with OCD?
The most common I heard, is that they are very clean and tidy. And I have heard of a thriller that the person who had OCD, became really violent when his stuff was disturbed or when the house was dirty. That and the fact that many people claim to be OCD (for just being organised) as a joke increases the stigma.

Can a person with OCD have obsessing thoughts about death?
Sorry for grammar mistakes by the way.

@Alkionida

Thank you so much for reading through it and participating! I'm glad that you found it informative.

​​​​​I would encourage you to check out this resource for more information about when to seek treatment. The "right" time could mean differently for different people.

I agree with you. Many people claim to 'be' OCD (which, in itself, is wrong because no one 'is' OCD. People 'have' OCD) without any diagnosis and this leads to an increase in the stigma attached with the disorder. Also, this is such a common misconception that people with OCD are all neat and tidy. Some even believe that perfectionism means having OCD but it is much more than that. Talking about the other thing, many people who have OCD have the fear of getting contaminated with germs or are extremely particular about arranging things. I don't know if 'violent' is the correct word but it definitely disturbes them to the extreme level.

Can a person with OCD have obsessing thoughts about death?

Yes, a person with OCD can have obsessing thoughts about death. OCD can convince you that you are going to die. Chances are, that the person already knows that it is an irrational thought, but it seems so real. That is when they may engage in compulsive behaviour to get a relief.

@compassion4you14 Thank you 💚💛

Great information! Thank you so much . I'm so impressed with everything I've seen so far. So thankful to find you!

@PrincessEverything602

Aww this made me smile so much! Thank you so much for the kind words and for taking your time out to read through my project. Glad that you found it informative!

This is a wonderful topic, thank you for posting. This is something I struggle with the most I think, because it seems to link into my anxiety and depression and loop it in on itself when the repetitive parts of the OCD get the worst - not sure if that makes sense.

When and how did you discover that you have OCD?

Late teens, early twenties before the idea of an actual condition was presented to me. Early thirties before official diagnosis. But it was always there - as a kid I used to get in trouble because I would get up when the house was asleep and put things back where my brain said they needed to be. (move the cups to the sink, all the remotes in a certain spot, ashtrays by the trashcan) I couldn't sleep until I did it, but then nothing was ever where people left them the night before. Also always picked at my cuticles until they were raw and bleeding or infected. To this day my parents still say it was a fungal infection, even after I told them then and tell them now I did it, I pick at them. I was simply labled 'neurotic' and that I would probably grow out of it. Nope.

What part of OCD seems to be the most scariest? What helps you to reduce it?

Not sure how best to explain it, but there are times when the OCD seems to 'amp up' and the worries and rumination about past things just speed up and loop until it gets so loud in my head it feels maddening. I have trouble staying focused and even getting my sentances out right, and a stutter I worked so hard to get rid of comes back. It's like my brain gets hi-jacked by a concern that I left a candle burning or that one thing I said that one time is going to cause something bad at some point, could be anything but it over powers everyday living. Still working on ways to reduce it, so far the best I can do is remain calm and find a place to be still until it slows down a bit.

The anxiety and depression seem to be easier understood by others, but the OCD is still a tricky one. Someone can get why I can't leave the house today or why I haven't properly showered in a week but it seems harder to grasp why the dishes HAVE to be done before I leave the house, or I NEED to check the stove before bed - even if I didn't cook anything that day, or why I can become unhinged if my daily order of tasks gets interrupted. For the most part people know not to just say 'Cheer up' or 'just Sad' when it comes to the others, but when my OCD comes out I hear the work 'quirky' a lot and it can feel kinda demeaning.

@CaptainHowdy

Thank you so much for reading it and participating in the discussion. I'm glad that you found it wonderful and worth reading.

It sounds like it was present ever since you were a kid, since you used to struggle with sleeping unless you put things in their "right" place. You have mentioned about picking your cuticles till they were raw, bleeding and infected. I'm so sorry that your parents confused it with fungal infection. I suppose that it would have been quite a struggle for you to make yourself understood. You didn't deserve to be labelled as 'neurotic' for something you had no control over. I was wondering what your parents think of it now? What are their views about your OCD?

Talking about the other thing, I understand it when you say that it feels maddening when the things start to feel more intense. It sounds like the intrusive thoughts have a lot of impact on your life and they worry you to no end that something wrong might happen. On the other hand, I'm happy to know that you try to remain calm because I know it's not at all an easy job to do so.

I totally second you on the part that anxiety and depression are still understood by others but OCD still remains so misunderstood. It's true that many people know what not to say to someone struggling with anxiety and depression but they find it hard to recognise the same about OCD. I know how demeaning it is that people call a mental disorder 'quirky' and invalidate the feelings of the people who struggle with it in their day to day lives. How do you deal with it when you get to hear such things (like quirky)?

@compassion4you14 My parents haven't changed so much, like they see it but it isn't talked about for the serious thing it is. I see a lot of my habits and diagnosis' in my mother, more so as the years go on and now she will talk about it. But it's talked about like an inherited webbed toe - just a thing, not life hindering. My father on the other hand reveres most things with a flippant disregard that still stings as an adult, even though I know his intent is not malicious. However that attitude is what most likely kept my mother from seeking real treatment. When I bring up the Excoriation, they kind of go "Oh yeah yeah..." and change subject.

With people I don't know, for a long time my favorite response was "Yeah, quirky like a heart murmor." which I also have and that kind of shuts them down and makes them ponder maybe. Those I care about and stick around, I make the effort to explain how it isn't something I control or even WANT - and any kind of relationship just cannot work unless they are able to accept that, and know darn well I will have to do multiple walkthroughs when leaving the house or get up twice to check locks after bedtime, etc. I have been lucky and grateful to be with someone who accepts even when they cannot understand (most of the time ;) ).

@compassion4you14

Thank you soo much for this... To be honest it helped analyse myself a bit and there couldn't have been a better time to read this than today... Thank you again for sharing it with the community 😀

@Spirithealer30

Hello there! I'm so glad that it helped you analyse yourself a bit. Thanks a lot for finding it worth reading. I was wondering about what made you say that there couldn't have been a better time to read this than today?

I don't have OCD but when I went to the doctor for my SAD (Social Anxiety Disorder) and PD (Panic Disorder) they gave me this pamphlet on the many anxiety disorders and Obesessive-Compuslive Disorder was on there. I didn't know that it was an anxiety disorder until I read that phamphlet. I've learnt that a lot of celebrities have it as well which I didn't know, I also learnt that some people with OCD have to become repetitve with where they put things like they have to put stuff in order and some are kind of like a perfectionist because they easily forget where they put things so they'll end up misplacing it, some are even hoarders. People with OCD also have a fear of germs and clean a lot.

@astray

I myself more repeat same retual than so much clean or became obsest with some thought

@compassion4you14

For those who have OCD:

When and how did you discover that you have OCD?

Not sure when exactly... think it went with anxiety bcs like some shock..

What part of OCD seems to be the most scariest? What helps you to reduce it?

Ah idk what helps lol. Usualy just go with it and to scared to stop myself...When I'm forsed a bit but than just may do it secretly... shame would say.. And what most scariest... that you can't control it..

For everyone:

When do you think is the right time to seek treatment for OCD?

I am not that much therapy person... but they where times thought for anxiety. When notice can't deal with it on your own.

What are some myths/stereotypes that you have heard about OCD? What contributes to increasing the stigma attached with OCD?

My parents were stare at me like... think like acting crazy.

@conscientiousPineapple1782

Hello there! Thank you for joining in the discussion and sharing about yourself. You have mentioned that the scariest part of OCD is that you can't control it. I agree that it can sometimes get scary when you don't want to do something but you have to. It sounds to me like you feel ashamed of it and therefore do it secretly. This is a really challenging part of OCD. I would encourage you to check out the 'Coping with ocd' resource in the further reading section as I feel like it might help you

About the right time for seeking treatment, I suppose that when it starts interfaring with your day to day life, it's time to seek professional diagnosis. You're correct- when you feel like you can't deal with it on your own, it's the right time to seek treatment.

I'm sorry to hear that your parents would think that you're acting crazy. I want to assure you that your mental health is valid and you're not acting crazy. How do they feel about it now?

You did a really great job on this. Thank you for your contribution.I have a question for you that you may or may not know the answer to.I see you listed Trichotillomania as an associated illness. Do you think the skin picking equivalent is also related? (Sorry I dont know the proper name.)

@blueocean45

First of all, thank you so much for taking your time out to read through my project- it means a lot to me. I'm glad that you found it worth reading. Also, thanks a lot for asking this amazing question! I'm sure many people would have it in their minds.

Do you think the skin picking equivalent is also related?

It's classified as a disorder that's related to OCD and its symptoms certainly share some similarities with those found in OCD. Not surprisingly, there appears to be a strong link between skin picking and OCD. Skin picking occurs in people with OCD at a much higher rate than the general population. So while it's not technically OCD, skin picking is classified by the DSM-5 as an obsessive-compulsive related disorder. You can read more about it in one of the 'further reading' links that I have shared.

(Trigger warning--descriptions of intrusive thoughts that some might find disturbing i.e religious anxiety, health anxiety, and fear of harming children, and one mention of vomiting. Also I apologize in advance if this is really long, I have a lot to say tonight.)

I'm really glad that this is on here right now because it really couldn't have come at a better time for me. I've had a lot of trouble finding people who really understand OCD. I think people just see me doing strange things and assume I'm being weird, or that if I wanted to stop I could, and I don't think people really understand the crippling anxiety that comes with it. And honestly, even on here, listeners don't always know what to do when I come in rambling that the clock is all wrong and I need to get something done but I can't because the clock is wrong. To be frank, I don't know what to do either.

When and how did you discover that you have OCD?

I've really only had it for a year. I started having intense anxiety that I would have a heart attack, to the point that I made my mom take me to the doctor to get me an EKG. Every tiny little ache or pain in my body was going to kill me and I had to constantly spend hours googling symptoms, or texting my sister who takes biomedical classes, or I would sit out in public so that if I dropped over, someone would be there and call 911 and I might survive the imminent attack that was going to kill me. My doctors and I thought it was hypochondria or panic attacks. But eventually the health anxiety faded and was replaced with a crippling fear that I was going to hurt kids I work with. I want to make this clear--I love kids. I adore kids. Kids make me happy and my favorite part of the week is when I get to spend time with the kids I volunteer with. These kids are so special to me, and the thought of me hurting them or having thoughts about hurting them made me physically ill. But have you ever had that feeling when your standing at the top of a tall place and there's a tiny voice in the back of your brain screaming "Jump!" and your not going to jump, you don't actually want to jump but the thought is there. It was like that. I was sitting next to my kids and realizing horrible things I could do. Horrible things I could think. Most people can dismiss those thoughts. When you have OCD though, you can't. You think "Oh no I'm a monster," and then spend all your time monitering your thoughts, trying to get rid of them. Every time I'd see a kid I'd check my thoughts to see if the thoughts were there and--guess what--checking the thoughts almost always guarentees the thought is going to be there.

Eventually I started having intrusive thoughts about going to hell, and offending God, and things of that nature. Which didn't make sense to me because I come from a very secular family, I've never been to church except when a friend took me. I kinda never had a set beleif system. I beleived in God but not like...the same way other people did, and the closest word that came to what I was was "agnostic." But suddenly I started having intrusive thoughts about selling my soul. And I was convinced I was doomed and I'd picture burning for eternity, and the thougth was so all consuming that I wanted to stick my hand in the fire just to see what it would feel like to burn for eternity. That's when I knew something was wrong. I was like,"Okay this is the third time now I've had an episode like this." I kinda began doing research and digging to try and figure out what was going on, and OCD just kept popping up and it made so much more sense than panic attacks or hypochondria did. I did some research, looked up the DSM IV criteria and it all fits, I'm relatively confident this is what I have, and I've brought it up to my psychiatrist (who I see a few times a year for other things) but we haven't talked extensively, and I'm not receiving any help at the moment. But I plan to maybe adress it the next time I see him.

What part of OCD seems to be the scariest? What helps to reduce it?

Definatley the intrusive thoughts. The crippling fear that I will hurt someone because of some tiny little thing I do. My compulsions all stem from the obsessions. My obsession that I *have* to be a good person. That my thoughts are so bad and awful I have to make up for them. That if I do anything wrong I will be punished and someone will be hurt. So I can't lie. I have to take careful considerations to make sure what I say is true. If I'm not sure if I paid for something, I have to go into the store and pretend to buy it again. In places where it's not clear what to do, I started making up rules, and those rules stuck.. Red is good. Green is bad. In fact, I have such an intricate system of good and bad numbers now that I have to count everyrthing and I spend so much time counting or laying on the floor because the time on the clock is "wrong." And as horrible as these compulsions are, the obsessions they stem from are even worse. And it's terrifying because they really make you question whether or not you are a good person, and for me personally, my kindness is one of the most important things to me. It was something I really valued about myself. I am a kind person, I am a good person. I prized that above all else and then to suddenly have thoughts that I might hurt someone or that I might not be good terrified me.

Honestly I don't have a lot of coping mechanisms yet, I've only had this for a year. Sometimes I try to distract myself. A lot of times I will curl up with a blanket I have that has a dragonfly on it--which is a personal symbol of strength for me because it's tied to a friend and mentor of mine who passed. I had a friend in school who would let me come over to her dorm and pet her lizard that she snuck into her dorm when I was worked up this year. That was nice.

When do you think is the right time to seek treatment for OCD?

Well, I'd say it's always the right time. If you are in pain, you deserve help. Period. You don't need to sit and wait for some magical "right time" to come. When you are hurting, you deserve help.

What are some myths/stereotypes you have hard about OCD? What contributes to increasing the stigma attatched to OCD?

Well, that it's about neatness, or pickiness, or orderliness. I have a developmental disability that causes executive dysfunction. I've struggled with organization my entire life. I am a mess. My OCD does not make me cleaner. None of my symptoms revolve around that at all. Although I did go through a while where I had to count how many times I washed my hands, but that was the only thing really. For me the biggest thing is that people don't know about the really scary thoughts that come with OCD. The ones that aren't always appropriate, the ones that make you disgusted with your own brain, the ones that make you feel crazy. My ocd doesn't make me neat and tidy. It makes me picture myself doing horrible things to kids that I love and adore and would never ever hurt. It makes me imagine myself burning in hell to the point where I want to jump in a fire just to get it over with. These are thoughts that are graphic, disturbing, and terrifying. And when you describe them to people you feel crazy. Even people who love you don't know how to handle these thoughts. My compulsions are *weird* I sit on the floor every day at 6:00 for an hour. I back track and do things again and again. If I think something I ate might be contaminated because of a bad word on the container, I will (trigger warning) phyisicaly make myself get rid of it, over and over again until i've done it the right number of times or there's nothing left in my stoumach. And the reason I've described this here is not for attention, but because I want people to understand that this is what OCD and intrusive thoughts can be like. It's ugly. It's weird. It's so isolating because no one understands. People in my life are either too overwhelmed with these problems to deal with, or the problems are so strange they think I'm making it up. All you see is the compulsions. The counting, the back tracking, the laying on the floor. I see the obsessions. I see the crippling fear. It's not something small that you can get over and it isn't something that's "quirky." It's a very real thing to me. And I know some of these thoughts and fears are irrational, but that doesn't make them go away.

@compassion4you14

This was great information and of course I would like to read exactly what the DSM-5 says on it but it's unfortunate that most people don't talk about excessive compulsive personality disorder because that is something that many people struggle with and there's not much information or awareness about that

@Meooow I'm glad that you found it informative. Thank you so much for reading through it. It is indeed unfortunate that most people don't talk about ocpd and that there's not much information or awareness about it. As far as I know, both OCD and OCPD are quite similar yet quite different from each other and it's sometimes difficult to get a proper diagnosis. I would encourage you to check out this resource.

@compassion4you14. I read it. Pretty informative. I still want to look up the actual DSM-5 diagnosis. Out of six of the symptoms that they said I have three of them in that article. It's very tricky for anyone even for professionals to determine stuff because a lot of stuff could be normal so to speak.

For those who have OCD: I don't think i have OCD, well maybe a little like in a shop i always get in dilemma for picking like for example: a bag of crisp. Because i don't know which one to pick that would be 'perfectly' unharmed and stuff.. i dont even know how to explain that xD well shortly i always pick the things in a shop those which are more.. hidden in the back so they wouldnt be touched by other ppl? And have really strange feeling about locking the doors. I mean i always lock 3 times and check if it's locked 3 times. (idek why) and if i still feel or forgot that i locked it, i go back again and check if the door is really locked. And some other things that happen to me but forgot to mention it now. Well but i know someone who have it, my sister and i asked her if she could answer.

When and how did you discover that you have OCD? "In 4th grade. I didn't really knew that it's OCD but had some kinda clue that something it's bothering me."

What part of OCD seems to be the most scariest? What helps you to reduce it? "the scariest part of it is that i always feel dirty. Actions helps me reduce it.. like washing myself?"

For those who do not have OCD/have a loved one with OCD:

How can you help someone who has OCD? I'm not so good with helping her with it, but i try to calm her i guess. I try also doing everything that could help her.. like putting extra clothes in the bag wherever we go, and similar kinda stuff.

What's the most challenging part of living with someone who has OCD? Well it's challenging.. maybe other didn't experienced what i did but it can get so exhausting. Tho i got used on it already.

For everyone:

When do you think is the right time to seek treatment for OCD? Whe it's just unbearable for a person with OCD and others around.

What are some myths/stereotypes that you have heard about OCD? What contributes to increasing the stigma attached with OCD? well i don't know about it.. haven't heard any..i think..

@compassion4you14

Thank you for all this information! I've never been really diagnosed with OCD before. But I do think I have it. I got totally stressed out at work yesterday because as I was making new changes on the knitting hooks (I work at Walmart), the fixtures didn't fit the product and the color didn't match. I was almost in tears trying to figure out how to make it work. I paged my supervisor but she did not respond nor did she come over like I asked her too, until like 15 minutes later! I was in a bad mood for the remaining of the last 45 minutes of my shift and during lunch with my dad after work.

I also need to have everything aligned when I work and put things on shelves. Especially picky on having the English facing out, rather than the French. But it's funny how I'm more OCD when it comes to work, than when I'm at home. My work desk is messy, everything seems disorganized. But when it comes to work, merchandising shelves, cleaning up after myself after eating in the lunch room, pushing my chair in, getting everything I need to work, that's when the OCD kicks in!~

Thanks for taking the time to write this article. Very informative~ :)

When and how did you discover that you have OCD?

I believe I've had OCD since I was a pre-teen. However, it has never been properly diagnosed until sometime last year when a school counselor believed I might benefit from seeing an actual psychiatrist to help with intrusive thoughts and obsessions.

What part of OCD seems to be the most scariest? What helps you to reduce it?

The scariest part of my OCD is the fear that if I think a certain thing, mostly a word, that I don't think is the right word to think, or if it's some very gruesome terrible thought....I believe something bad will happen soon. It's this slight feeling of doom that overcomes me if I don't do a compulsion almost right away.

It's also very irritating, becuase sometimes I end up mumbling to myself trying to change the terrible thought I'm thinking. I would repeat the 'good' words to myself over and over and sometimes I feel like I have to do it so often that my mouth sometimes aches from mumbling so much!

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to seek a lot of good treatment since I'm too poor to afford a good therapist. The anxiety/antidepressants that I'm currently taking for general anxiety and depression don't help at all with OCD despite it being an anxiety disorder. So I've just been dealing with it myself this whole time. It's not so bad, though. I mean it usually doesn't strongly affect my day to day life. Although sometimes it does slow me down a bit when I have to repeat actions while I'm on my way somewhere, such as going through thresholds twice, or feeling the urge to pass my hand across a wall without someone noticing (which my grandfather actually has at one point). Honestly, it can get kind of exhausting.

Curiosity question. Does anybody have it where they can't have their stuff touched. To the point where it's pretty extreme

@Meooow my aunt told me she thinks I have it because I place things in a position in which I won't forget it because I tend to misplace it and if someone moves it without telling me I get pretty upset and freak out and become pretty anxious when people move thIngs when I've had it exactly where I wanted it.

There's a lot of times that people have asked me am I OCD but I've never been diagnosed with it or assumed that I am. I like to think that I'm just a neat freak and a perfectionist.

but reading your question I've noticed this in myself.

Well it's more than just getting angry. But I just stay with my parents so they understand and so since I don't really have anyone come over it doesn't really affect my life that much but of course when I try to explain to people they don't really understand

@Meooow where in my statement did I state that I get angry ? Or are you talking about yourself?

I'm a bit confused by your comment is all.

@astray yeah read what you wrote you said that you do get angry and then I was saying that I guess I do a little bit but I wouldn't use the word angry I guess I would say like frustrated but you see I don't even allow anyone to get to the point where they're close enough to touch anything of mine