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PL 101: Systems vs. Goals (Discussion 4)

GlenM June 29th, 2020

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Hello Leadership Crew!

Welcome to our 4th discussion in this first course. In todays discussion, we will be talking about systems vs. goals.

To start, please read this post here  and watch this video.

The basic argument here is that having a system is better than having a goal. A system is a way of behaving that helps you move towards accomplishing something. A goal is usually and end state that happens after you have accomplished something. I think eating healthy is a good example. A goal might be to lose 10 pounds. In this case, you feel kind of bad about yourself until you hit that goal; and then, once you hit it, you kind of lose the purpose because the goal has been reached. If you relapse and gain wait again, then you fall back into feeling bad about yourself again. Contrast this with a system of eating healthy. A system might include things like: having a big glass of water prior to each meal; eating a lot of fruits, vegetables, and nuts; not eating after 9pm; and/or doing some level of intermittent fasting. You wouldnt integrate all of these new healthy eating behaviors at once. Instead, youd gradually introduce one and then another and then another over whatever period of time makes sense. The system enables you to continuously get healthier and healthier. You will eventually reach the goal, but itll be the byproduct of eating healthy.

Another example might be education. I dont really care all that much about grades for my kids. I mostly want them to learn and enjoy learning. We talk about what they learn, we draw things, they make their own educational videos, they explain things to me in their own words etc. I want them to have a system of learning and refining their perspective on things. If they have this system, then having good grades will be a natural result of enjoying learning.

This also has implications for 7 Cups as well. We might have goals of having a certain amount of group support messages or 1:1 messages. Those are fine goals to have, but we mostly want to create a system of support where people care for one another and then the natural result is an increased number of messages. Or, zooming back, think about this leadership development program. We could have an arbitrary goal of training a certain number of new leaders to serve our community; or we can co-create a system - this leadership development program - that helps people become leaders. The natural consequence of the program will be a higher number of trained, competent, and strong leaders that can better support our community. Â

What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed? What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?

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Aileen1114117 July 11th, 2022

-having a system is better than having a goal

-You should keep the system even after reaching the goal

-no need to feel bad about yourself if you don't reach a goal

blissfulTouch29 July 22nd, 2022

I need to get my motivation back and remember how far I have come so far in my life. Some of the things I will implement again are small goals for myself to make it more attainable, not compare myself to anyone and take time for myself and commit to my previous goals such as taking online classes at a college near me. There are more that i could talk about but i chose to make it brief.

StarrrGirl20 August 4th, 2022

@GlenM

What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?

A key system I believe I need to set up in my life to help me succeed is to take a break and not wear myself out.

What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?

1. Implementing a proper sleep schedule

2. Having a full day in a week all to myself to just relax and wind down.

3. Regularly Exercising and eating healthy in order to stat healthy physically and mentally.

blissfulForest7074 August 5th, 2022

@GlenM

What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?

The key system that I need in my life is to manage my time and energy according to the priorities that I have in my life

What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?

Keeping a feedback or review system to improve and update my system

Learn more about the process and giving myself ample and realsitic timeline to invest in creating it, instead of a crushing deadline which would make me stressed

Communicating and setting healthy personal boundaries with the people around me

IShiFood August 12th, 2022

@GlenM

What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?
I think having a firm system in place as far as managing my different clients will help me manage my tasks more efficiently.
What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?
1. Buy a timer and use it to help me break up my day and create systems that help me better serve my clients.
2. Set very strict boundaries as far as when and where my clients can contact me. By setting these boundaries, I have a better picture.
3. Forcing myself to take breaks. Playing games, indulging in movies and etc.

niceworldmnd August 13th, 2022

@GlenM

The system i want to set up for myself is to be proud of the progress that I am making.

1. never settle for less
2. value the work/feeling i am doing /having .
3. not to forget how far I've come.

August 22nd, 2022

@GlenM

What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?

A key system I need is one that helps me manage my time based on an effective schedule and be satisfied with the progress I've made.

What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?

- celebrate successes through rewards

- set a good schedule that is flexible and serves its purpose

- set appropriate boundaries when needed

Here4good74 August 30th, 2022

@GlenM

What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?

I think focusing more on healthy eating habits, instead of losing weight, this way keeping healthy is an important factor to succeed.

What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?

commitment, consistency, and Continuation

SirenOfSerenity August 30th, 2022

@GlenM

What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed? What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?

- A quote I resonated most with the article provided was "The purpose of building systems is to continue playing the game. True long-term thinking is goal-less thinking. It’s not about any single accomplishment. It is about the cycle of endless refinement and continuous improvement." This is true for my own key system, endless refinement and continuous improvement in the way I maintain my health as well as the way I Coach and Counsel others who come to me for this support. Three behaviors I can implement to help gradually grow this new system in my life would be tapping into my top 3 strengths in everything I apply myself to, according to the Big Five test in the previous discussion: Open-mindedness, conscientious and extraversion.


Strawberrymitts101 August 31st, 2022

@Glen M

+What is a key system that you need to set up in your life to help you succeed?

**I need a system that will help me stay fit and active as I mature in years.


+What are 3 behaviors you can implement to help you gradually grow that new system in your life?

**Behaviour 1: adding a reminder to my phone to measure my blood pressure once per month

**Behaviour 2: outdoor exercising by walking/ cycling to my car everyday; and doing yoga twice per week

**Behavior 3: indoor exercising at regular timed and mapped out intervals during a week on a matt or with weights at home or in a gym

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yourbuddy30 September 28th, 2022

@Strawberrymitts101 seems like a motivational system you could have. Good luck with that!!

November 2nd, 2022

@Strawberrymitts101

good luck on your journey.

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