The Thinking Space Room Problems

I hear you @PhoenixRise! I was so excited when I saw this room was added, and read about its purpose, which suggests that it is a forum to discuss in depth subjects other than what may be covered in the other rooms. Apparently, what the in-depth discussions part actually means is nothing but sexual ijn-jokes to the same dozen or so people who dominate the room, and the rebuffing of anyone who attempts to bring up any REAL topics for thoughtful conversation.

I'm sad about it, truth be told, and gave up on finding a semi-intellectual interaction spot on 7 Cups. I wish there was a way to make The Thinking Space functional!

Y'all are acting like this is new. But Thinking Space has been like this for most of its existence. It's breeding ground for trouble. It's like one of those stagnant ponds where mosquitos lay their eggs that hatch into terror for the innocent passerby. And if you don't happen to become "one of them", you will end up wanting to do horrible things to yourself... That's right, it's not the guests that are the problem...

But I think, in a way, it's too late. Even if they do completely get rid of Thinking Space, the legion will disperse into other rooms and continue telling people their lives don't matter, they are just a joke, etc...

So, you may be wondering, is there any hope? Or will 7cups plunge into a culture dominated by people who just go tell you to... do things to yourself...

Thinking Space is not a room. It's a society. They can't be controlled by closed rooms and ban after ban.

So what I propose, to be the thing that will save this site...is proper modding. (Yep, everyone who didn't already hate me hates me now. Good thing I don't come around here much anymore so it doesn't matter, jokes on you haters lol) And what I mean by that is having at least 1 mod in each room at all times, but preferably more than 1. Including those mythical group mod leaders, keeping the mods from abusing their power.

Why?

Because I've seen it work! I've seen trolls and unsupportive people quickly and cleanly dealt with, instead of it being ignored and then people get hurt...on a support site....ain't that funny. Hilarious. Sometimes, this site should win the irony award.

But the excuses arise. " there's not enough mods, they volunteer!"...oh well. Bye bye 7cups, I'm inching my way outta here before it descends into full madness.

Hi there!

I am sorry you feel this way about Thinking Space.

As a Thinking Space Team Support member/mod I can assure you we are all trying very hard to keep the room a positive and safe environment! If you have any questions or concerns you can send me a message

The one thing good I find about the room is that you can always count on it to have people talking in it. When all the other rooms are dead, you can just watch that room. I don't see many "thoughtful conversation" in that room. Ask your self this though How many Moderators do you see around and how many actually provide structure for others.

I agree that the room can be a bit harsh for people and that the conversation in there isn't much in line with what you'd expect of a site that foremostly tries to cater to people who are in a crisis.

What you have to realize I think, though, is that there is no where else that this type of conversations are allowed and that a lot of people enjoy these types of conversations. You may find the conversations boring, distasteful or harsh but that it still caters to people's needs and if the room weren't there these people would have to find other places to find these conversations and it would flow over to other rooms. Because Thinking Space is like this I think what you'll see these conversations less elsewhere because they now can be had in Thinking Space.

If you dislike these people and the conversations they are having I think you should be grateful that Thinking Space exists. Because the only thing you have to do is simply not go there and go to the community room or any other room in which you'll now find none of these people and conversations thanks to Thinking Space.

Enforcing heavier moderating on Thinking Space I don't think will do much good for anyone. The people in the room obviously wouldn't like it, it would affect the rest of the rooms as then people will try to seek out these types of conversation elsewhere, and the moderators too would have a hard time with it. I remember when it was just Community Room 1 & 2 and there were a lot more moderators but also a lot more fighting about rules, mods, warning, mutes, trolls, band etc. Compared to that, Thinking Space is very easily moderated now and it's really peaceful.

I think it would be nice if 7C tries to caters to everyone's needs and I think they've actually often stated that this is something they aim for. I think Thinking Space suits that purpose well.

I do however agree that you can't have serious or deeper discussions in Thinking Space. When I try to engage people in an intelligent discussion I usually don't get much of an answer and the discussions of other people take over the room. While I don't like this I don't ask for 7C to close the room down or ask for them to silence them or anything. It's just not my taste but the people in that room seem happy about it, so it doesn't really matter what my opinion is on this imo.

How we can have more intelligent discussion on 7C I don't know, there isn't a room at the moment where people talk more intellectually. I"m not sure if this is something that can be made on 7C, sometimes I think there simply isn't enough animo for these types of conversations. I think maybe adding more discussions about philosophy or politics could be helpful but I know that people in Thinking Space generally don't like it and will leave the site. I'm also thinking that Thinking Space maybe can be seperated, which I think is going to happen anyways because the chat often goes too fast to be able to read it. Maybe besides just making a Thinking Space 1 and 2 there could be seperations made on deep and shallow discussions.

I'm sorry if this is how you feel about it or anyone had a bad time there, and me as part of the team we try our best to make this room suitable for what it is meant to be for. Sometimes things get all worked up there but then anyone can contact any of the team ir any mod and they will be there.

Thinking Space different than other rooms and vice versa, it's meant to be for lighthearted talk which isn't suitable in other rooms, so each room has it's cons and pros for each member here, and the community is trying to make places for everyone to find their spot and where they feel comfortable talking, but that of course doesn't give anyone the right to make you feel unwelcome there, and we try our best to make everyone feel welcomed in there.

Each room has it's time when it's need a mod immediately that's why there is us and there's teams so each team can try take care of that room as best as they can and we try our best, and you can always contact anyone of us or any mod as a matter of fact if it's needed.

I would recommend if you try give it another chance because as there is bad times there are some really great times where we have thoughtful, fun and whatever we can come with as discussions there, and again sorry for anyone who had a bad experience there.

I don't understand why you would want more moderation. When there was more moderation there were a lot more fights in the room and people hated the mods. Now it's really peaceful and everyone gets along with the mods.

Sometimes we are just talking in Thinking Space and then suddenly out of nowhere there comes a message from someone who entered the room 15 minutes before, hasn't said anything and suddenly goes "I'm reporting this to the mods!". These people walk into a room, don't like it, eavesdropping in the corner for 15 minutes and then start dictating to everyone the conversations should go. Yet when these people complain on the forum their word is taken for granted and their complaints are validated as legit concerns.

It's sad people can just dictate their own opinion on an entire room by just making a forum post claiming how a certain room is mean, bullying, triggering, not following the rules, don't include other people and 7C immediatly starts giving into their demands. Or atleast that's the impression I get with when reading these threads.

I also don't think adding more discussions is a good thing. While I personally like them, the majority in Thinking Space doesn't. I don't think a few loudmouths should force their opinion onto the majority and I don't think 7C should give into the demands of the few who are the loudest on the forum.

When you sign up to this site, there are Community Guidelines, the Guidelines are clear, they are there to protect everyone, everyone needs to follow the Guidelines. You signed up to the site having accepted the Community Guidelines. You can't then decide you don't like or want to follow the Guidelines and anything goes. The end result will be closure of the room, just like the 'Loneliness Room'. Some people breached the Guidelines, but everyone who used that room suffered, because it was 'CLOSED' down.

I must acknowledge, though, that to me it does indeed seem that newbies or people with different thoughts get bullied by some people and that moderators and the rest of the people gang up on the newbie/outsider unrightfully. This is just how I perceived a few situations.

"Oh boo hoo, a mod is bullying me because I'm not following the rules that I agreed to when I decided to spend my time here and not on 4chan. Boo hoo hoo" --most of thinking space