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Appreciating others through trust: an intriguing quote

kairemets December 11th, 2017

Do you agree? Do you think it needs another perspective or do you think this quote is kinda perfect as it is? Have you ever encountered a person who has made you feel that way?

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kairemets OP December 11th, 2017

observeroflife December 25th, 2017

@kairemets

I believe this is true, because not only I feel it is true, but also that trust is a way by which humans connect,(they say love connects, only superficially true, because without trust there is no love).

Also about backstabbing, my simple mind immediately showed me a picture of an armor(the picture I got was kevlar flak jacket), I converted that to something philosophical, I believe that self-acceptance and loving without attachments will do the job of this "armour", if one truly accepts himself/herself and loves without attachments(no strings to pull) then how would they be stabbed?

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kairemets OP December 28th, 2017

@observeroflife

I completely agree.

However, don't most of us have strings to pull? The ideal (selfless?) love, even between friends, is something that to me, sadly, seems just an ideal.

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observeroflife December 29th, 2017

@kairemets

Yeah I get you

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kairemets OP December 29th, 2017

@observeroflife

Yeah, for example some of my friends are the closest I get to an ideal friend, but I bet they are still sad when I so-called "let them down".

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observeroflife December 30th, 2017

@kairemets

You can always talk about it right?, In that way they would get to know that you were not intending to let them down

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kairemets OP December 30th, 2017

@observeroflife

Well, there are actually many possibilities how they can feel let down.

I could let them down by simply being lazy in some social obligations. (SIDENOTE: Then again, who says what I absolutely have to do?)

I could do something that is not unethical of me to do, but let's say they'd expect more. (and here we are talking about expectations, I know)

Or yes, there could even be some weird misunderstanding where they could feel betrayed and it could also be a case when it is just a big misunderstanding and in the end it could be that they wouldn't even trust me when I tell my version of the story.

I am sure that even with people who care about each other it can happen that they don't believe each other in some instances. Maybe rarely, but still.

I think that even more important than 100% trust and being 100% expectationless is the ability to move on from the hardships.

I do think that there has to be a lot of trust, but there can still be these kind of impurities in a lot of these relationships.

But here it is then important to have self-love and acceptance towards oneself and others.

What I have seen that all of my friends have some things that they hold against me, that they don't like, that they don't understand. All of my friends can be a little rough on the edges sometimes. I think a lot of people have that experience?

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observeroflife December 30th, 2017

Yes I agree with you on moving on from hardships

ananiasacts January 1st, 2018

@kairemets, Life seems to boil down to an endless series of simple binary decisions: regret having to do the right thing while you're doing it, or regret not having chosen to do it for the rest of your life.