Looking for some tips
Hey everyone š
Not sure where to start but the last few weeksā¦ maybe into months, Iāve been in a constant struggle with anxiety and falling into the loops of memories from my trauma. I ground, meditate, deep breaths, reframe thoughts and I just canāt keep my thoughts and feelings at bay. Driving is the worst. I listen to music or a podcast and before I know it Iām back in time again. I know I canāt change the past. I canāt even get justice for what happened to us. I donāt want him to have this hold over me or my girls but how do I get out of this fight or flight status. Multiple times a day I want to go hulk on something or run and crawl into a deep hole and rot. Iām hyper vigilant which is causing issues in my current relationship. I feel like fire and ice surge thru my veins and my whole body vibrates in energy.
How long will this go on? How do I make it stop? What tips have helped yall come out of the loop and be able to enjoy the amazing things around you?
@emotionalGlobe8505
Have you opened up and spoke to someone friend / partner / or professional?Ā Ā unburden your thoughts.Ā
I think when memories of some subject keeps coming up and re-entering your head, I feel the subject needs to be revisited and sometimes when we talk it out it brings some peace or different perspective.
Ā a nagging thought or pop up into my day tend to go on .....until i address it. Sometimes in talking with someone we may hear some feedback or something we have not heard before and see things differently.Ā
For example i had a big loss of family early in life my co-worker had a similar experience we sharedĀ the events.Ā i felt their seems worse then mine.... but they felt mine was worse situation.
Not a contest but we both felt that yes others have been there...and sharing it quieted that pop ups and thoughts.Ā Ā
I do have a therapist and go weekly to therapy. Over the years Iāve lost many of my friends and donāt have anyone that I would call my best friend other than my boyfriend and he just doesnāt seem to understand why I canāt move past things so talking to him about it doesnāt exactly helpā¦sometimes makes things worse.
@emotionalGlobe8505
I get that y partner sucks at telling them anything i have found friends and confidants elsewhere.
As for therapy remember you are in charge of that and therapy is IMO guided self help so if you want to deal with items you chose not wait until it comes up or whatever i feel too many are not as proactive as they can be in therapy ....Ā
@emotionalGlobe8505
Hi There... I totally feel for you and what you're going through. I by no means know what your pain is, but what I can doĀ is tell you loosely about mine and what I do. (Can't use did- still working through it :) )
So at first, it's just survival. I can in an instant be brought back to any emotional experience in like 2 seconds- and I'm there, reliving the emotions, seeing it as if it were happening again, even the smells.Ā That sucks when they are bad experiences- and I had some traumatic relationship stuff that I keep reliving.Ā So to survive I did like you- for me holding my breath, eating something spicy, and screaming till I lose my voice (for real) was the plan.
The problem is the longer I did this, the more it built up until I was super depressed.Ā I eventually got help (like 20 years later) and it's been a slow slog but it's working.Ā Once I was ready (like got meds and no longer on the highest end of the depression scale), I was advised to "let the pain wash over me.."Ā YEAH, super scary.Ā So you can't do this part until you're ready- but induce the event and let it hurt you- cry, feel it, but set a timer like no more than 5 mins.Ā Then talk to someone about the experience. And repeat, and repeat.Ā What happened is that after just a few of these "pain sessions", it began to get less and less impactful.Ā It was like a pain allergy shot- I was building up resistance to the event.Ā Then I would work on the next event. Repeat. It totally sucks but it is working for me.
BUT I really don't think I could be doing it without a few meds and a therapist.Ā Ā
That said- I don't know if I'll ever not be bothered with the random recall of these events- but it won't have power over me anymore- that's the goal I'm shooting for.
This is hard, but I'm sure you can do it.Ā I've mentioned this in another post of mine, but when I'm feeling bad, I listen to the song "Seize the Power" by Yonaka- it reminds me that my little voice deep inside has a ton of power and can come out and help me whenever I let it.Ā One last recommendation... don't do what I did... It took me over 20 years to start dealing with this. The longer you deal with it the longer it will take to get out of it.Ā And don't be afraid to ask for help- from here, from dear friends, from professionals. We're all trying to figure out this life- the more suggestions the better. :)
Sending tons of good vibes your way!
I do have a therapist and weāve talked about medication. When the trauma happened, medication was used to sedate me in order to take advantage of my children and then used against me as my ādonāt give a sh*t pillsā. I know I could benefit from some help chemical wise but the thought of taking a pill puts my brain in this nope nope nope not going to let that happen again and I end up canceling my dr appointment. I donāt have any close friends to vent to other than my boyfriend but I do know I need to start talking about why Iām hurtingā¦ just the idea of being raw with someone tho brings tears to my eyes. Idk maybe Iām embarrassed of the whole thing and would rather not have anyone feel sorry for me or judge me for allowing it to happen. I also know that keeping it inside is killing me.
@emotionalGlobe8505
OK... yeah sounds like you've had/still have a very tough time.Ā And I totally get the "keeping it inside is killing me."Ā I have been there.Ā My situation/secret is only known to the person it involves and 20 years later my therapist.Ā Take it from me- that bottled stuff will slowly burn you.Ā Ā
All I can suggest is trying to talk to someone you trust- Or a total stranger who can be a safe space.Ā Currently you are the only one with the burden on their plate, telling someone let's them take some of your portion- they lighten your portion while they help you. Even if it's just a non-judge listen, no suggestions, no judging, just an ear that is engaged in you.Ā I think they have trained listeners here (haven't done that myself) or feel free to reach out to me, an old married man who doesn't know you but can listen.Ā Again, I have my own struggles- but I'm working on it.Ā It's always nice to know you are not alone, that's why I came here... I suspect that's why you came here. Let this place help you.
Again- tons of good vibes being sent your way.
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@emotionalGlobe8505
Thanks for reaching out. You sound you do have it "together" to an extent, and you seem to have some idea of coping strategies that may help... but it also sounds like your inner content is surfacing more lately, and this is challenging.
There are quite a few reason as to WHY this is happening now- probably you can think of a few... but the important thing is- deeper stuff is more "available" to you right now.
This may be a good thing- if you take it into therapy right now. If you can- i think it might be a good idea.
Otherwise- try holding on more tightly onto things that you know work- use more the meditation, the yoga, the evening walks. Maybe change something, experiment with new ways to do stuff.
It might be that your whole integrated system is trying to break through and tell you something-
Probably something about stuff that needs to be worked with, be "integrated", seen, accepted, and above all- Made Space for, and truly FELT.
So, maybe see how you can provide that holding space for yourself, how you can befriend what's trying to come up.... and at the same time- do what works to regulate your system to a more relaxed and balanced state.
It's a tight rope.... and you're walking it.....
@LilachEmanuel1
Thank you so much for that take on this. I am in the same relationship Iāve been in but things are getting more serious as they do over time and I think it is bringing up things I never wanted to remember. I think Iām so good at stuffing and running from things but it only helps for so long. Thereās some stuff Iāve told my therapist are off the table for discussion bc I just wasnāt ready but maybe it is time for me to feel everything Iāve stuffed. I really do appreciate your encouragement thank you. š
šø@emotionalGlobe8505
Te entiendo. He estado ahi. Ahorita estoy calmada con respecto a los loops. Pero me llama la atencion que a mi tambien se me activaban mucho cuando manejaba. Yo viajo mucho, y he notado que cuando estoy en paises que no quiero estar se alborotan. Y cuando estoy en el sitio que quiero estar casi no los tengo. Mi terapeuta tambien fue de ayuda, aunque cambiar de sitio mucho mas. Si puedes trata de viajar para tomar un aire.
Vi un video fue wow. Esto es un estracto. āTo break the agonizing loops in our minds, we might try to ask ourselves a deceptively simple-sounding question: if we could not think about our chosen topicāif we were barred from returning to our favored themeāwhat might we think about? What other thoughts might lie behind or beside our entrenched, ritualized preoccupations?ā Este es el link por si lo quieres ver completo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7_kJijFhyE&list=WL&index=6&ab_channel=TheSchoolofLife
Tambien hay un libro que se llama The tools que habla de esto perfectamente. Es de Phil Stutz. El lo llama *The Maze* a mental state where you're trapped in obsessive thoughts, particularly about wrongs, injustices, or grievances. Itās a mental pattern where you endlessly replay arguments or fantasies of revenge, which only worsens your emotional turmoil. Stutz emphasizes that while being in *The Maze*, you lose touch with the present moment, and your real priorities and peace of mind are overshadowed by frustration and anger.
To break free from *The Maze*, Stutz offers a tool called **Active Love**, which aims to channel your feelings of anger into a more constructive force, called *Outflow*. This involves visualizing sending love or positive energy to the person you feel has wronged you, thereby diffusing the power that the negative thoughts have over you. The key idea is that when you let go of your need for fairness or revenge, you reclaim control of your emotions and energy, enabling you to engage with life in a healthier, more productive way.
I know this can be difficult. I am telling you but I didnāt do it. I donāt feel like sending love yet. But the other question: if we could not think about our chosen topicāif we were barred from returning to our favored themeāwhat might we think about?Ā It was revealing. But I did it in a moment that I was kind of happy. Strong to see the thruth.
Last but not least, quite powerful and helpful psilocybin session.
@friendlyJet630 Sorry here, full english
@emotionalGlobe8505 Hi. I am brand new here. Honestly I just read this because it was the 2nd step in my work for today. But I'm glad I read it, because it resonated with me. I don't have all of the answers, but I do relate to your struggle. Something that that helps me through car rides is a conversation with another person. If no one is in the car I call a friend (safely on a hands free device of course) who brings me joy but who does not necessarily know about the trauma in my past. Someone who can tell me about what is going on in their life and draw me out of my own. If my kids are in the car I ask them to share with me a problem they are having. I try to help them or listen, if that's what they need instead. I guess the point is sometimes you have to reach outside of yourself for peace. Either borrow someone else's or help them find it. I'm wishing you well, and I want you to know you're not alone.
What helped me was accepting what happened that I can't change the past then reminding myself that I can change my future by not letting the past deciding what I do today or how I feel it took I while but I kept telling myself this and it helped.
Hey, Globe.
Firstly, you're not alone. I struggle with this, too.
When my mind goes back in time, because even 7 years later, it still does...
If I'm overwhelmed by it, I breathe through it first, validate what I'm feeling, and try and picture my inner child, who feels afraid and unsafe. I recognize what's happening, and remind myself I'm safe now, and what was in the past is in the past and can't hurt me. I'm safe. I repeat that over and over again until I can sort of calm down a little bit.
If I feel I'm too emotionally dysregulated to do that, I find the nearest cold thing, frozen thing. Hold it in my hands and turn it over and just focus on breathing. It's really hard when you're faced with that kind of emotional and memory throwback. I heavily relate to the feeling of wanting to "hulk smash." I actually said that to a friend of mine once. "Hulk know only smash." Thanks for making me feel seen right there. If taste works better, or smell, engage a sense. A strong, pretty smell you like, like a body spray or air freshener, or maybe a lemon. Something really overwhelming to the senses somehow, to pull your focus and energy toward it instead of that memory or emotion.
Every day, I use some sort of reminder tool, to help keep me grounded in the present. Gratefulness practice, to remind me of the good of the present moment, and that that past is no longer my present. Metta meditation practice, to help me with some of the disproportionate anger I feel at certain triggers and resentments. The serenity prayer helps me also, since one of my things is trying to control my environment out of fear of chaos, and helps me remember that while I can't control how I feel in certain situations, I can control what I do about it, and that sort of eases my mind in a way I still can't fully articulate yet. You can adapt the serenity prayer to include any higher power or exclude it altogether, if atheism is more your thing. A mantra of your own making may prove more useful to you if that's the case.
Journaling when I feel a surge of emotion, especially anger, and just typing what I'm thinking and feeling onto the phone (if I'm not driving or working) helps me identify the sadness at an unmet need underneath the anger I feel during those "hulk smash" moments. I can then find a skill or solution to meet that need, and picture my anger dissolving like a popsicle on a hot sidewalk or like a bath bomb fizzling in a bathtub.
When I feel that urge to isolate ("crawl into that deep hole"), I use a skill called "opposite action," where I attempt to connect to someone. I try to remind myself that while my feelings are valid, and that me feeling scared is valid, I check the facts: the people in my life are safe for me. We (me in my wise mind and my scared part) know that we are safe from the things we fear and that our fears stem from our past and not our present. We have enough evidence of our fears not being founded on anything but our past because of the actions of those around us. I can trust that they mean well because they have shown me through their actions that they care about me, and so I replay a positive memory with a friend or family member that reminds me I am safe now. I have no empirical evidence that I need to run away and hide, even though I feel that I really want to. (That one was really hard fought. And there were many times I wanted to ghost people but made myself sit and not do it.)
If I'm feeling an overwhelming feeling of grief, I cry that out and clutch a teddy bear my friend sent to me when I had an illness. I hug it as I'd hug my inner child, to comfort her. It helps.
I'm still in recovery myself, and still struggle with those urges quite a bit, and lose the battle sometimes.
The last bit of coming out of that loop is to absolutely obliterate your vicious inner critic over time. This was the hardest one for me. I chose an absolutely ridiculous character from a favorite movie (Captain Smek from the Pixar movie "Home") to embody that vicious voice to disarm it. Whatever works for you, it takes time. Reminding yourself that every saint has a past and every sinner has a future, and forgiving yourself for what you didn't know, didn't do, did do, or did know, if you need to do that. Whatever that might be. Showing compassion to yourself, which is difficult at first, and understanding that healing isn't linear. You may fall off a time or two. Developing a growth mindset, that mistakes don't make you a failure, they make you human, and that they're part of the learning process. Things not working right away isn't a sign they don't work at all; you might just need to tweak them a little so they can work for you specifically a little better. If something doesn't work right away, give it some time.
Don't be hard on yourself or succumb to feelings of defeat for very long. Allow yourself to feel what you're feeling, and take breaks from healing if you're feeling burnt out. Trying to keep at something when you're feeling burnt out will sap you of your energy to keep going.
Lastly, and most importantly, understanding that you are worthy of love as you are, right now, nothing added, nothing taken away, simply by virtue of drawing breath and existing. Making sure you somehow remind yourself of that during really difficult moments, even if it feels awkward or even like you're lying to yourself at first. It might not feel natural, given all you've been through. Reminding yourself in some way that everything about you makes sense in the grand scheme of your life and everything that has happened or hasn't happened. That your feelings are valid. That it's okay that you aren't okay, in those moments.
I don't know how long it will go on. I can't answer that. I can say, though, that over time, you will have more and more of those moments where it doesn't. That as you heal, you'll make new memories with people who love you, your children, friends and family, if you have any. That as you heal, you'll have more and more positive experiences that shine like rays of sunshine and start to slowly outnumber the dark clouds of the hurtful, painful ones. Especially since you know already that there are amazing things around you.
I wish you healing, light, and for you to reclaim your life, Globe. I wish you all the best. Some of these may work for you, and some might not. Trust your intuition in the things that feel right to you.