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Spiritual but not religious? Hmmm...

User Profile: Spiritriver
Spiritriver Tuesday

This is kind of a tongue in cheek post.  Actually, most of the time when I hear this said, it sounds like what's being inferred is that religious folks aren't genuinely spiritual.  It's kind of an "us and them" situation.  When I hear it expressed in that smug tone, I feel as though the person is a bit low on the spiritual evolution spectrum.  

I believe there's a spiritual aspect to all persons, even atheists.  Many atheists demonstrate high values, which (unintentionally) aligns them with those who accept their spiritual sides.  I think at it's most basic level, the spiritual dimension describes unseen energies and levels of consciousness.  The more a person tries to describe spirituality, the more they get lost in the weeds.  Why not just say it's there, it affects us, and things tend to work out better when we have a positive relationship with it.  

I also feel that all activity interacts with the spiritual dimension.  A person can perform great works of art, invent stupendous things, perform great acts of charity, dig holes or clean toilets and derive a great deal of spiritual fulfillment from any of those things, and a virtually infinite number of other ways.  When a person demonstrates integrity as a form of self expression as they do things, from mopping floors to brain surgery, their spirit is growing, evolving and finding fulfillment.  It's a convergence or integration of physical and spiritual expression.  

Those who are marinated in religion may, in some people's opinion be misguided, but still, they are indeed spiritual beings.  If they are sincere, and believe they're doing the right thing, "spiritual" people need to accept and value them as fellow travelers on the path towards wisdom and grace.  

These are the late night thoughts of a sleepy guy.  I hope at the very least, they entertain.  I do hope they invite those who consider religion and spirituality to be rivals, to reconsider that position.  

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User Profile: madiisun
madiisun Tuesday

@Spiritriver

This is an interesting perspective! Thank you for sharing it. I have honestly never met a spiritual person who has looked down on or smugly at someone religious. It has been the opposite for me. I am someone who sees myself as spiritual but not religious; whenever I have told someone religious, they give me a pitying look. It is almost as if they cannot imagine being spiritual without having a god at the center of it. 

While I believe in a higher power, I do not believe in a god being like many religious people do. This has been the center of difference between me and religious people. Those who are religious are quite spiritual, but it is different. I accept those who would like to go the religious route, and I would never try to force my outlook on spirituality onto them. However, many have tried to push their religion onto me (but this could be due to the main religion that is prevalent in my area as they are very focused on missionary work). I hope someday, those who are devoutly religious will learn to be accepting of those on a different spiritual path. 💖

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User Profile: Spiritriver
Spiritriver OP Wednesday

@madiisun

It sounds like you live in a more inspired culture than I do.  Around here, many consider that "spiritual" and "religious" are more like polarities, with carefully veiled aspects of tribalism.  Of course they'd be mortified if they heard someone describe them that way.  

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User Profile: QuietMagic
QuietMagic Wednesday

@Spiritriver

Just jotting some notes and having fun playing with words 😊

1) Universal spirituality: the idea that all people are intrinsically spiritual just by virtue of existing, regardless of whether they believe/know it--because all things participate in and are connected to a spiritual dimension/being, which can flow and manifest in a near-infinite diversity of ways that under the right conditions will tend toward growth/evolution (#2 below)

2) Eudaimonic spirituality: the idea that people can be more or less spiritual depending on the degree to which they possess certain valuable virtues, experiences, powers, or insights (e.g. integrity, creativity, fulfillment, awareness of #1 above)

3) Exclusionary spirituality: the idea that only people belonging (or not belonging) to a particular religious affiliation are spiritual
a) Anti-religion: "Only non-religious people are spiritual"
b) Anti-atheism: "Only religious people are spiritual"

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Main ideas of 1st post:
-All people are spiritual in the #1 sense
-All people are capable of spirituality in the #2 sense
-Therefore #3a and #3b are both rejected

Main ideas of 2nd post:
-The purpose of the "spiritual but not religious" label is not to affirm #3a
-Rather, the purpose of the label is to reject #3b (in response to some religious people affirming #3b)

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User Profile: Spiritriver
Spiritriver OP Wednesday

@QuietMagic

I really like your definitions!

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User Profile: soulsings
soulsings 2 days ago

@Spiritriver words are difficult. I like the simplicity in which the Dalai Lama expresses his beliefs

"My religion is kindness." You could also add compassion and ethical behavior to his attributes.

I think we all want to be happy and fulfilled and not be in pain. Unfortunately many people do things that take them in the opposite direction.