Accountability thread 9/30 - 10/6
Hi everyone,
Welcome to the safe space where @Phoenix22k @enigmaticOcean8813 @orangeSpruce9113 @ClaraRoseDreamer and @Sweetdisposition6571 and I share our journey together to overcome eating disorders.
Everyone is welcome to join and share their stories and thoughts.
Sending positive vibes and lots of love
@Turtleonmyleftarm hi turtle ! Glad to see you wanting to share your own experience and your peers as well ! Well there will be teen discussion about supporting friends with eating disorders it will be held on 7th October on 4pm eastern so don’t be late ! 🤗 good luck on your recovery journey ! Wishing you all the best 🤗🤗
@Hopeprovider6771
Hi Hope!
Thank you for your kind words.
We've built a nice little group and sharing our experiences has proven to be really useful for us.
Can you please provide a little bit more information about this teen discussion?
I am not a teen anymore, but if my contribution could be useful, I would like to help...
Where will it take place?
Thank you!
@Turtleonmyleftarm sorry to hear that you won’t be able to join us well here’s all the information in the link below
https://www.7cups.com/forum/eds/FamilyFriendsofIndividualswithEatingDisorders_2046/Newteendiscussionannouncement_337587 🤗 for anyone else who’s teen and who’s interested feel free to reach me out
9/30 Monday
Hi guys! I’ve been so busy at college and honestly having so much fun so sorry my posts haven’t been too detailed. I might start posting on here less frequently but definitely will come back every now and then. Doing really well thanks for all your support!
@orangeSpruce9113
Hi Orange!
No need to apologize for feeling better and being busy — it's fantastic to see how much progress you've made in such a short time! I'm so glad we could support you along the way.
Enjoy college, have fun, and don't worry about us! But if you ever feel your ED brain is bothering you, don't hesitate to drop by and share your experiences.
Sending you a big hug and my best wishes for an incredible new school year!
@orangeSpruce9113
Hey orange! I completely understand! I'm just very proud of you for seeking out help, especially at your age, and for sharing your journey. I'm rooting for you and will always enjoy reading what you share!
Nice job overcoming the "anxiety" from the other day. It's these little victories that do end up making stronger habits.
Good luck with your classes!
Sunday 9/29 / Monday 9/30
Hi everyone! Sorry again for my delay in responding and posting! You all know life gets busy and I always appreciate knowing that when I'm able I can come back and post and hear from you all :)
Sunday was really nice. A relaxing day with usual routine. Went to church and then visited my parents to watch the Steeler's football game. While I'm not a "huge" fan of football (american) it was still just a really nice time that I got to spend with my parents. I didn't think much about food and just relaxed with them. The rest of the day went well also with no binges/purges.
Monday was a longer day at work, but again went okay. On my way home I was feeling anxious and contemplating a binge/purge session. I noticed I felt extra "tired" despite sleeping really well. I still think it is just my brain trying to "trick" me into a binge/purge session which involves eating sweets and getting a sugar rush. I managed to get home, change out of my work clothes (which is always refreshing) and then do a few little things around the house. This occupied my time and quited the ED brain. It turns out I had energy to spare after all!
Heading into October, and while I said this for September... I plan to improve even more and really want to start a new "streak" for myself.
Keep being awesome everyone!
@Phoenix22k
Hi! No worries at all, we totally get it – life can get really busy sometimes, and it’s great that you can still come back here and share with us whenever you can!
I’m glad you had a relaxing Sunday with your parents! It’s always nice when you can enjoy the time together without stressing too much about food or anything else. It’s moments like these that make a difference.
It sounds like you handled Monday really well, even with the anxiety and tiredness trying to pull you into a binge/purge. You recognized what was happening and managed to focus on something else to quiet your ED brain, which is such a great step! Sometimes it’s amazing how much energy we actually have once we move past those feelings.
Wishing you the best of luck for October! I know it’s always challenging to start a new streak, but every little win counts. You’ve got this!
Keep being awesome too! :)
@Phoenix22k
Hi Phoenix, I'm a bit jealous of your Sunday , it sounds absolutely wonderful :D I guess anxiety does play a major role in these behaviors, but I'm very glad that you managed to stay strong and have a good day , you give me hope and inspiration.
Wishing you all the best and a wonderful night.
Hello everyone,
Here I am with my report from Monday, September 30, and “almost” all of Tuesday, October 1.
I ate about 80% of what my diet prescribes, particularly for dinner, where I restricted more than usual… A consequence of how awful I felt and looked on Sunday. The only thing outside of my diet was the several coffees with milk foam (like cappuccino foam) that I allow myself a couple of times a day.
In the evening after work, I went to see my psychologist, and it was a really intense session. Don’t get me wrong, my psychologist is amazing! But when the session ended, I realized that I had spent most of the time crying and talking about how ugly I feel, how I’ve never felt beautiful in my life or appreciated, and how I just can’t see anything positive about myself. It came up how my past life experiences have led me to view everything I do as never enough, or as just the bare minimum, for which I don't deserve any recognition. I really left that session feeling shattered, and last night I slept terribly, still shaken by those realizations I made during the session.
Today, however, I already feel a little better. I wouldn’t say I feel like a weight has been lifted, but it seems like I’ve at least uncovered this boulder and have started to chip away at it with a chisel. Little by little, I’ll chip away at it, session by session with my psychologist, until I can hopefully break it down completely.
Today, Tuesday, October 1, I ate the correct portions for breakfast and my two snacks, mid-morning and mid-afternoon. Lunch was about ten grams short on carbs and half the amount of fats. I’m not sure if I’ll be able to meet my dinner goals, but I’ll definitely try. I also managed to go to the gym during my lunch break, and that always helps me a lot to release tension and quiet down my ED brain. So, I hope dinner will go as well as the rest of the day, and that my ED brain doesn’t play any nasty tricks on me like it has in the past few days.
See you tomorrow! Wishing you all a fantastic day!
@Turtleonmyleftarm
I'm sorry to hear your having a hard time , but it's times like these that get you closer to gaining back all the joy and peace that you should have in your life. Sadly the best way to heal is to cry it all out ( and that means alot of tears) and each realization you have will get you closer. You sound as though you are doing very well though , just keep trying, and never give up.
Wishing you a wonderful night , with peace and contentment.
@Turtleonmyleftarm
Hey Turtle,
I'm glad you weathered the "storm" recently and are feeling a bit better. It is interesting, how just when we are doing well with our diets, exercise, and other things, that emotions elsewhere pop up. I find those are harder to deal with than any obstacle course or run.
Oh and I did read your comment about watching "Inside Out 2!" It is really cool to think you had the same idea! It sounds like ED brain/anxiety/envy has been running wild. Telling you all these things and feeding off of your insecurities. Your counseling session sounds like it at least gave you a chance to "let out" your thoughts. While hard, there is a certain freedom that comes along with it.
I love your vision of "chipping away" the boulder you hold. It is a metaphor I use frequently as well. I imagine this dark shell that I have enclosed myself with and chip by chip it is going away with little tiny gleams of light coming through.
What I/we also need to think about is that our "image" or physical selves may be something that other people admire and wish to achieve. Everyone is always comparing, and we might be the envy of others. This may not be the best way to look at it, but could be a way of shifting perspective.
Anyway, I love you and all you have done and the work you are doing to improve your life. As always just know you are not alone with how you think of yourself.
Keep chipping away <3
@Phoenix22k
Hi Phoenix,
Thank you for your kind message, you really made me think!
It's true that we all tend to compare ourselves to others, and sometimes we have a distorted view of ourselves. We often see ourselves as not being enough—whether it’s not beautiful enough, not fit enough, or something else entirely. But what we fail to realize is that what we perceive as "not enough" may actually be someone else’s goal.
While it’s not the healthiest concept to think of ourselves as an aesthetic or physical goal for others, in the context we find ourselves in, if it can help us feel a little better or see ourselves in a less critical light, why not use this as a tool for greater self-love? If shifting our perspective in this way can bring us a moment of relief or even a small step toward accepting ourselves, then maybe it’s worth embracing, even if just for a little while.
It’s not about seeking validation from others but rather about reminding ourselves that we are often harsher on ourselves than anyone else could ever be. What we see as imperfections or shortcomings may not even be noticed by others, or they might even be the very things others admire. If recognizing that can help us ease up on the self-criticism, then perhaps it’s a useful step on the journey to appreciating and loving ourselves more.
I hope I will be able to "listen" to myself here and start working on this new approach...
Hello everyone, I'm trying to write a bit more here , but it's hard to find the time.
Today I've been thinking alot about why I just can't seem to improve my relationship with food. From being unable to eat enough, to eating way too much. Why can't I just eat normally? Why can't I just go a day without obsessing about it?
Well I have made some rather insightful realizations recently. The first one I have focused on , is the theory that your ED is a way to cope with all of life's problems. I know this may seem obvious, but what I'm talking about specifically is how it numbs the pain. Because when all that's in your mind is food , there's no room for all the other thoughts. All the worries , all the fears. Because when your not eating, your thinking about how it's a good thing. And if you binge , all you think about is how good the food tastes. There's no room for all the horrible emotions you don't want to feel. It numbs those thoughts. Because I just can't seem to go a moment throughout the day , without either being afraid , and therefore eating. Or eating, and therefore being afraid. I must just keep praying to God for strength and courage, because I want this to end. The other theory I've read of is Dopamine addiction, but I'm not too familiar with that yet. Sorry for the negative post , I guess I'm just feeling blue.
Thank you so much for reading, and always supporting.
I wish you all a wonderful night.
@Sweetdisposition6571
Hey sweet, you hit the nail on the head with how food is a way to "mask" the tough emotions. I definitely agree with that and have used food as a coping mechanism.
I have never gotten into doing drugs, and don't drink alcohol, but food, definitely is my "drug". Like you said when eating there just is not any time for anything else. Food also just makes us "happy" as our primal brains used to have to savor every morsel of food.
I really like the realization you have come to and am proud of you for "digging" it up. Just having this awareness helps. While it isn't a magic cure, it helps bring some pause and recognition to why we eat at times.
Don't feel ashamed or alone, I'm also repairing my relationship with food. I'm somewhat angry at myself for letting it become my "friend" but that is what it is.
We are just trying to re-establish the friendship boundaries with food.
Sending a hug and hope you have a nice night as well!
@Phoenix22k
Thank you for talking with me Phoenix, it is a very valuable thing to have , someone who you can speak with that truly understands. I know it's not possible for those who don't have it to understand, because it is an unnatural thought pattern. Just like I find it hard sometimes to understand my sister ( she has clinical depression) so thank you all truly for talking with me.
You shouldn't be angry at yourself, I think food should be a friend, in a healthy way.
If you don't mind me asking, how long have you struggled with your ED?
thank you for the hug , I really needed it . I'm sending you one aswell!
@Sweetdisposition6571
I have had an unhealthy relationship wtih food for about 10 years now.
It started when I was in college. I was getting into fitness, but my diet was not quite up to par. A family member mentioned how much weight I had gained, and when I look at pictures then I can see it. From there I lost a significant amount, going from 180 to close to 130lb. I sought some help, and have gotten back to a "healthy" weight, around 160.
I've always looked for the "perfect" body and I am proud of what I look like now, but still am never satisfied. I'm learning to accept myself, but still struggle with eating right consistently.
It is my "coping" mechanism and is tied with a lot of emotions. When I lost all the weight my body desperately telling me I need to eat, and now eating is what ED brain cues me to do when I'm bored, overwhelmed, and in many situations.
On the outside, everyone sees a fit, happy person. But on the inside, I'm ashamed of myself for what the ED has caused in my life (significant financial stress, losses of relationships, and some negative health impacts).
Compared to where I was 5 years ago, I'm doing much better, which I need to recognize for myself. This last year I have had some really good success at having more "binge/purge" free days, but it is still a constant thing I obsess over.
I'm happy to share here and it helps to finally let some things be known so I am glad you asked!
@Sweetdisposition6571
Hi Sweet!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I understand how difficult it can be to find the time and energy to write, especially when everything feels so overwhelming.
I think it’s really important that you’ve made these realizations on your relationship with food. Even if they seem obvious at times, recognizing the role that your ED plays in trying to ‘numb’ your emotions is a huge step. Fears and worries can seem less overwhelming when all your focus is on food, but I know this isn’t the type of relief you want for yourself in the long term. Continuing to pray for strength and courage is a beautiful way to keep hope alive, and I’m sure that, even though it feels hard, one day you’ll break free from this cycle. Remember, every small step toward awareness is already progress. You’re not alone in this, and we are all here for you
Thank you so much @Turtleonmyleftarm, your encouragement is greatly appreciated, and I am so lucky to be able to speak here.
Thank you , I agree. Understanding the problem itself already helps in a great way. Thank you , I look forward to that day. And u hope you may also break free soon , and have all you have dreamed of.
Thank you again, and I hope you all have a lovely day
Tuesday 10/1
Sleep 4/5, workout 4/5, motivated this morning and had a nice day teaching at school.
Came home and am feeling pretty good still. With each new month I have set myself some goals and things to look forward to. Some of them are financial, others mental/wellness, fitness, and family. I've done this each month in 2024 and it has helped at least set some "goals" for myself, even if I don't achieve them 100%.
Everything is tied essentially though to my ED. I just know how much better life would be if I can learn to control it and reign it in. To be honest, binge eating/purging, well costs money, so my financial well being could be so much better if I didn't spend mindlessly on food. I could have more energy by sleeping better regularly and eating right. I could look in the mirror and be proud of myself. So much could improve... IF I COULD JUST CHANGE.
I write this just as a way of having it again in writing, and sharing, and hopefully motivating myself through the month.
Just like turtle and others, slowly chipping away at this ED part of me.
Thanks everyone for your endless support and reading. Even in my/our darker times the words you provide make me smile and help me know I'm not alone.
@Phoenix22k
I really like how you approach each month with concrete goals, both small and big. Even if you don’t reach them 100%, what’s important is that you keep looking ahead and trying to improve.
Every bit of progress, no matter how small it may seem, is a victory. Don’t give up—the process may seem long, but every day you choose to keep trying, you’re already winning. We’re here for you, and I’m sure that, one step at a time, you’ll find the peace you’re seeking!
Sending much love 💜
@Phoenix22k
I always get motivated each time I hear how you are so ambitious! I hope I can be like that someday.
I completely understand how you feel , about how many memories were ruined by the parasite that is the ED.But it's you that has to change , it's you who must make the decision to keep fighting it. And I think you have made that decision.
I also an rather ashamed at how much I am costing my family, but I'll keep asking for forgiveness and try my best.
Thank you for your support aswell , and your kind and sweet words
Wednesday 10/2
Had a really nice morning and good day at school. We had a longer day with meetings after school and in the past this would really throw ED brain into high-gear, but it wasn't too bad today.
I again attribute better sleep and nutrition to this. Sorry to keep repeating this, but the more I write it and tell myself the more it might just get "stuck" in my brain so I can be more consistent.
My afternoons I still feel, blah. ED brain is there, and I'm occupying myself with things like reading, some video games, and chores, but I often just feel like I'm just putting off a binge session and it is a conscious effort.
I just need to have faith and keep with it. I need to remember that the negative behaviors took time to "set in" and thus positive behaviors will too.
Relaxing a little more this evening, going to head to bed in a bit, and get some rest for tomorrow.
Hope you are all doing well <3
@Phoenix22k
Hi Phoenix, my friend!
It’s really inspiring to hear about the progress you’ve made, even on longer days when things could easily trigger ED thoughts. You’re absolutely right—better sleep and nutrition are so important, and the more you remind yourself of it, the more it will help to reinforce those positive habits.
I totally understand how afternoons can feel like a struggle. The fact that you’re consciously finding ways to distract yourself and not give in is already a huge win. And yes, it’s so important to be patient with yourself. Like you said, the negative behaviors took time to develop, so the positive changes will also take time to fully take root, but you’re on the right path.
Keep being kind to yourself and trust that every small step forward matters. Wishing you strength for tomorrow and beyond.
Hi everyone,
Here I am with an update on my day yesterday (Wednesday the 2nd) and “almost all” of today (Thursday the 3rd).
After my therapy session, and a few hours of feeling all over the place, I finally managed to push away those heavy thoughts and return to some kind of normal. Of course, this doesn’t mean I’m “cured,” but at least I’m not as shaken as I was on Monday evening.
I won’t bore you with all the details of what I did over the past couple of days—you already know by now (gym or a run to start the day, walking the dogs, work…). What I do want to talk about, though (and I’m sure you’re tired of hearing this!), is my relationship with food. I realize that my body probably needs something more, and that’s why it’s pushing me toward things it noticed I allow myself. Like the foam on my cappuccino, which is becoming more frequent, or that spoonful of yogurt when I’m prepping breakfast and snacks for the next day. Or fruit. Even last night, while making dinner, I had a few grapes.
On one hand, I know that none of this is unhealthy. And the quantities are really not that big either. But right after, I can’t help feeling guilty, like I’ve gone too far, and then I end up cutting back on my “actual” meals.
My therapist asked me something the other day that I wanted to share with you, maybe you can help give me a new perspective (and it might help others reading too). She asked why I don’t trust the portions my dietitian has given me, and what I would need from my dietitian to be able to trust them.
I didn’t really have an answer for her, other than telling her that it’s not that I don’t trust the dietitian, it’s that I don’t trust my body and how it reacts! The dietitian explained that it takes a lot of excess calories to gain a kilo, but I feel like my body doesn’t react that way. Just a little extra (some milk, a bit of yogurt, some fruit) and my weight immediately goes up—I’m back at 48 kg now. My therapist says this is normal because my body is always in “famine mode” and stores everything, and that weight is also influenced by things like water retention, etc. But I can’t help seeing these fluctuations as my body’s inevitable failure, like all it knows is gaining weight.
Of course, I know I’ll have to work on my body dysmorphia and so many other things. I’m not asking for a solution here. But I wouldn’t mind hearing your thoughts on this or how you would experience it if you were in my shoes—just to see if there’s an alternative way of looking at things that might give me some insight.
Thank you all!
Take care,
D.
@Turtleonmyleftarm
Hi Turtle! Glad you have returned to some "normalcy" and are starting to feel a little better after the recent storm of emotions.
Never feel like you are "boring" me with your recaps! I sometimes feel the same way towards you all when I recite my days, workouts ect. They haven't been as detailed from me either. I know for me it helps to write down the little wins, and think that someone at least is reading over them. You are never boring me! And you are doing great with adding in those little treats for yourself like the foam, some extra grapes, and everything! These are wins, even if you don't recognize them :)
I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts, and this idea that your counselor provided. I think it was a great question they asked, "what would it take to trust the dietician". I can sense your struggle. Wanting to trust the dietician, and probably "knowing" they are right. But on the other hand, not trusting our own bodies and not seeing "progress" so seeing it all as a waste.
I think ED brain has such a control over minds that it tweaks a lot of things. When we look in the mirror ED brain is quick to pick out all of our flaws. When we eat something different or extra, which is perfectly in bounds with what we should eat, ED brain tells us it is too much. When we have success for a while but don't see "progress" like we imagined, ED brain says that it is not working. In relation to Inside Out 2, I think it is fair to say ED brain is pulling so many levers and buttons and twisting our perspective of just about everything.
I write this, knowing that it is pretty much exactly what I feel, and maybe it will give me pause as well when I don't see the "progress" I should.
What I'm trying to focus on is instead of looks, how I "feel". I'm hoping that once I start to recognize how good it feels to eat right and rest more, that in turn when I look in the mirror I'll also feel better. It makes some sense... but is hard when ED brain has been in control for so long.
So, I think that continuing to develop trust in your body that it can/will process that extra grape or foam and not result in a 100kg gain is part of the solution, especially with how active you are and how well you have been balancing everything out!
I hope this gives somewhat new of a perspective, perhaps when an emotional moment around food/image comes up just imagine ED brain at the helm and encourage yourself to find another emotion to take over.
Have a nice evening Turtle!
@Phoenix22k
Thank you so much for this message; it really resonated with me, and I appreciate your insight on all of this. It’s comforting to know we’re both going through similar reflections and that neither of us sees the other as “boring” when sharing these thoughts and little wins. Like you said, having someone read over them makes such a difference.
I think you’re absolutely right about the power ED brain has to warp our perception. It’s like it’s always ready to twist our thoughts, telling us it’s “too much” or that we’re not making “enough” progress.
This focus on "feeling over looks" is so important. What you’re saying about feeling good in the body and recognizing that as progress is a really helpful mindset shift. I’m going to try to hold onto that, especially during those times when self-doubt kicks in.
Thank you for your perspective, and know that I’m here if you ever want to share more of these reflections.
Hope you have a relaxing evening and a great day tomorrow.
Thursday 10/3
A nice Thursday. Last night I ate "a little more" than I probably should have, but it was just another little portion of chicken and salad. Regardless, this in the past has caused binge/purging but it didn't last night.
I woke up and did feel a little more full, but ended up having a great workout, pushing some heavier weights, and having a good day overall.
My newest revelation, well I've known this for a time, is that I am always so motivated and "ready" for a great day in the morning. Especially after my workouts. This tapers off in the afternoon as I get more tired and I still find "guilt" in just relaxing. I have had more success in the evening and getting to bed at the right time. I also don't feel ED brain quite as much during these times. So I feel like I'm slowly "wrangling" it in. I would say now its noisiest from 3:30 - 6:30.
Thinking about this at least gives me some pause to recognize my challenging moments and try to prepare for them.
Sorry for the rambling! Just putting out some of my thoughts to help myself process as well :)
Have a nice afternoon/Friday everyone!
@Phoenix22k
Hi Phoenix,
It sounds like you handled last night really well. Choosing not to let those old habits take over is huge, and waking up the next day to have a strong workout is proof of how far you've come, and how good is "good" food for you - even if you think it was too much. You’ve clearly been putting in a lot of work, and it's paying off in ways that are so important.
It's really interesting what you said about mornings being your most motivated time and how that sense of calm fades later. Recognizing that 3:30 - 6:30 window as a more challenging time for you is such an important insight. Having that awareness is key because it lets you prepare for those moments more and helps you make intentional choices when it counts most.
Keep acknowledging those small wins, because they’re adding up. I’m really proud of you, and I know you’re moving in the right direction. Keep going, one day at a time! I am with you!
Hi everyone,
Today, on the surface, seemed like a pretty ordinary day with nothing special to talk about. But there was one thing... It might seem like nothing to most people, but not to me, so I decided to share it.
Last night, my husband wasn’t feeling very well (some stomach discomfort), so he asked me not to prepare breakfast for this morning. Normally, we have porridge, pancakes, or a “fit cheesecake” made with oats, Greek yogurt, and fruit – essentially a deconstructed porridge. Anyway, all our breakfasts generally include dairy and fruit, and with his stomach feeling off, he asked if I could skip preparing anything so he’d have the freedom to decide in the morning whether he even wanted breakfast. If so, he could choose something drier and gentler on his stomach (specifically, he wanted some toast with a light spread of jam).
Avoiding dairy, he also asked me not to prepare our usual mid-morning snack – yogurt and fruit. For lunch, instead of bringing something from home, he planned to have something at his parents’ house, choosing what to eat based on how he felt the next day.
I usually spend quite a bit of time after dinner preparing meals for the following day. But last night, I found myself… with nothing to do! I considered making my “usual” meals just for myself, but then I changed my mind and thought, “Why not? Let’s try an unplanned day.” And so I did!
For breakfast, I had toast with a bit of jam. For my mid-morning snack, I had a piece of fruit and some nuts. By lunchtime, it was cold and pouring rain, so I came home and made a warm lentil and vegetable soup. While it was cooking, I prepared some yogurt with fruit for the afternoon. And I took some sea bream fillets out of the freezer to thaw for tonight, though I still have no idea how I’ll cook them or what I’ll serve them with.
I’m not exaggerating when I say it’s been over a year since I’ve lived “day by day” like this. I usually plan my meals in advance, always knowing what I’ll be eating the next day, and I try to prepare things ahead whenever possible. So, it felt really strange to decide in the moment what I wanted to eat. I’d like to say I felt “lighter” and carefree, but I’d be lying. Still, I think it’s a step forward in working on my rigidity around food, so today, I want to give myself a pat on the back and tell myself I did well.
Wishing you all a fantastic day!
What a wonderful day turtle! As you know, I'm rather similar on how I plan out what I eat for the most part and often the idea of an unplanned day is stressful.
You made some huge leaps! First adjusting to the unexpected changes in your schedule is a win. Then choosing to have an unplanned day takes a lot of courage. I would venture to say it also involves a lot of trust in your body which is something else you and I are working on.
The meals sound tasty and great for a rainy day!
You definitely deserve a pat, or two, on the back. I'm proud and happy for you!