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Graduate Study and depression

squib November 13th, 2015

This was very interesting to me, as I too was a physics PhD student, and depression played a huge role in it taking me 10 years to finish.

"I might not have felt so alone had I known how many people struggle with mental health issues in academia. A 2015 study at the University of California Berkeley found that 47% of graduate students suffer from depression, following a previous 2005 study that showed 10% had contemplated suicide. A 2003 Australian study found that that the rate of mental illness in academic staff was three to four times higher than in the general population, according to a New Scientist article. The same article notes that the percentage of academics with mental illness in the United Kingdom has been estimated at 53%."

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Simon93 November 16th, 2015

@squib

Whoa, these numbers are crazy high! Did not expect that.

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squib OP November 16th, 2015

@Simon93

I thought I'd read of studies that concluded academics did not suffer these illnesses at higher rates, so I was very surprised to see this too. And I'm not sure which is correct, these reports or my memory.

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Celaeno November 21st, 2015

This statistics horrify me. This is something more than an epidemic to me. It is an effect of current mechanism and politics in academia around the world. And when I think about my own experiences and multiply it by the given data, I can't even comprehend the image of ocean of pain and misery it invokes. It is plainly wrong.

This quote really resonated with me:

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squib OP November 21st, 2015

@Celaeno I do wonder whether it's better in Europe than the US. My sense is that, at least in physics, European PhD programs provide closer guidance and possibly more humane working hours.

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Celaeno November 22nd, 2015

@squib, I'm not so sure about that. Hearing about experiences of my colleagues doing a PhD on the Polish university + having a friend in France who takes part in EU Marie Curie programme, I clearly see that they don't receive any support regarding mental health. The impact of it, of course varies from person to person, but the whole environment seems toxic to me. The stories of how faculty and even supervisors take advantage of PhD students, as if they were a free labour, while they have to scrap for any income, is unbelievable.

On one side I have ambition to contribute to my field, but on the other I know I don't perform very well under pressure, because of my depression and anxiety issues. I don't want to make a hazardous decision which risks my health, but if that's the world standard necessary to obtain this degree, what can one do if not to join the rat race?

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squib OP November 22nd, 2015

@Celaeno I have to say, I wasn't thinking specifically of the mental health support aspect, and it can be very different in different disciplines! And exploitation of graduate student labor seems a pretty standard part of academia, unfortunately.

One thing you might do is take some time off from school to figure out how/whether to proceed. While it wasn't something I planned, I did work 7 years between my undergraduate degree and starting full-time graduate study. I think that did help in a lot of ways: more perspective on life vs. academics, more focused consideration of my career options before starting the program. And once I graduated, being older with more experiences helped keep me from being consumed by the inevitable (and always petty) politics of my institution. I didn't do things out of fear in the way I sometimes see in younger colleagues (who can't imagine doing anything else).

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