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Responses In Sexual Abuse ***Trigger Warning, please proceed with caution***

clare7199 November 9th, 2020

Sexual abuse can have an impact on the survivor’s sense of autonomy. They may experince physical or physiological responses during the sexual abuse. I think it is one of the things that doesn’t get talked about often because of the fear of guilt and shame experienced by the survivor

It is not the survivor’s fault for experiencing biological, physical or physiological reactions/responses during sexual abuse

Many survivors of childhood sexual abuse and adult sexual abuse may experience pleasurable biological responses to their abuse, along with the emotional distress and pain. This can be very confusing for a child and even as an adult. The survivors may feel shame and guilt and a distrust towards their own body. It may feel like their body have betrayed them. Such responses are not the survivor’s fault. They are simply the biological and physiological responses to the sexual abuse that the survivor experienced

Any physical arousals in response to abuse are physiological reactions. It is not something that the survivor had control over. In these situations as a survivor, our bodies just react because of how they are biologically built. For example like panicked breathing during a threatening situation or sweating after exercising

Experiencing physical arousals or biological responses are not expressions of pleasure or indicators of consent in sexual abuse

A common analogy is of being tickled. If you are being tickled, it can be fun under the right circumstances or can feel awful in other cases. Either way, it can be hard or impossible to stop laughing when tickled by someone. Laughter doesn’t mean that you actually like or want to be tickled. It’s just the way your body reacted to tickling

It is ok to feel the way that we do after experiencing something traumatic. It can be really confusing, difficult and painful to go through it. It can bring about feelings of guilt and shame. Everyone processes trauma at their own pace, which is ok! heart

It can be helpful to remind ourselves that it wasn’t our fault. We have to remind ourselves that our biological or physiological responses don’t invalidate the fact that the abuse that happened was wrong. Whatever the physical, biological or physiological responses that we experienced during sexual abuse, does not make what happened as ok. It does NOT mean that we deserved being sexually abused

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WelcomeToChat November 10th, 2020

@clare7199

Thank you for your great contribution, which makes crystal clear a very relevant, but touchy and confusing point.

I can attest as a Listener, that in 1-to-1 chats I have met people with a lot of confusion, inner conflicts, and guilt coming from that.

Which created additional suffering to that coming from already very traumatic and hurting experiences.

I hope your clear explanation helps to alleviate this extra suffering to members that might be experiencing it.

Thank you !

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clare7199 OP November 11th, 2020

@WelcomeToChat

It is a less talked about subject because it can lead to the survivor feeling alot of guilt, shame and self blame for what happened. It can be hard to cope with those feelings but reminding oneself that it wasn't your fault, helps at times

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WelcomeToChat November 11th, 2020

@clare7199

I totally agree.

That is my view based on the cases I knew.

Thank you for such a valuable contribution !

Marcelo.

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adventurousBranch3786 November 11th, 2020

@clare7199 This is a very difficult area to cope with and thank you for writing about it. I struggled terribly for 40 years with this .I am finally doing better but I can attest to the pain and suffering that it can cause. @WelcomeToChat Thank you for listening to peoples stories,

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WelcomeToChat November 11th, 2020

@adventurousBranch3786

Thank YOU for your participation

And particularly for the courage to share your story around this difficult subject.

It is very valuable and healing for other members that (maybe silently), read this thread.

Marcelo

clare7199 OP November 11th, 2020

@adventurousBranch3786

Thank u for sharing a piece of your journey on it. That takes alot of courage. I think it's wonderful that you're doing better now after coming a long way. It really is a struggle to cope with it most times and it gets overwhelming

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clare7199 OP November 21st, 2020

An article that I found helpful to read regarding this subject

***Trigger warning, please proceed with caution***

http://www.everydayvictimblaming.com/evb-analysis/sexual-pleasure-during-abuse-and-or-rape/

It isn't the survivors fault heart

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WelcomeToChat November 21st, 2020

@clare7199

A most clear explanation of this taboo issue.

I learned from it.

Thank you !

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clare7199 OP November 21st, 2020

@WelcomeToChat

I hope that awareness helps to lower the stigma and helps to reduce the guilt and shame that the survivor may feel. It is ok to feel what we feel. It is never the survivors fault that they were abused. It can be hard to cope with it

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WelcomeToChat November 21st, 2020

@clare7199

It will certainly do.

Awareness and clarification are the most potent weapons against shame, taboo and stigma.

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November 22nd, 2020

I am glad to have found this article, and yes this does add to the survivor's guilt and the shame that is associated with rape by others. This is truly relevant information that needs to be more widely available.

I just want to share a bit of my story her to prove the point of why this is such a needful piece of info. I just had a birthday yesterday. I was 69 years old. I have been a product of incest from the age of 4 until I was 15. Ran away got raped at 16 and was pregnant with no one to tell and no help. I did the best any 16-year-old could do with no support. I was told that I could not have gotten pregnant unless I had an orgasm. But I don't think I did but I was unable to get help until these late years in my life and it sucks to still be dealing with this crap for all my life.

If you can help just one person with this information, then each one can teach one.

thank you

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clare7199 OP November 22nd, 2020

@scarletPear1945

I'm happy that you found this helpful. I think alot more people experience it, more then we realize. It's just not talked about often because of the guilt that surrounds it

You're really brave for sharing a bit of your story. I'm sorry that happened to you. No child deserves to be hurt in that way. I was a victim of incest abuse, it can be very confusing. You're not alone 💟

It must've been so hard for you to support yourself and go through the pregnancy alone after what happened. You're really brave to have pulled through it. It saddens me to hear that you were told that you couldn't have gotten pregnant unless you've had experienced orgasm. It saddens me that those who said such things to you, weren't empathetic and do not seem to have an understanding of how human bodies work and the biological processes involved or an understanding of consent

It was not your fault that it happened. It was not your fault in any of the abuse that you went through. Sometimes it can still be so easy to fall into self blame regardless

A line from that article that really touched me was ""We don’t believe your abuse is less ‘valid’ if you experienced sexual pleasure, or even if you didn’t. We know all of the blame for abuse lies with those who perpetrate it. We believe you and know it wasn’t your fault.""

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November 23rd, 2020

@clare7199

Thank you for the validation and for the postheart

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clare7199 OP December 4th, 2020

Some things that I find helpful regarding this subject

***Trigger warning, please proceed with caution***

Subjective arousal is our personal evaluation of how certain stimuli is making us feel

Physical arousal is biological responses to certain stimuli that we may experience regardless of what our subjective arousal might be

It is very normal to have subjective and physical arousal as not aligned. This is arousal non-concordance and it is something that may happen during abuse

Experiencing biological responses due to abuse are like autonomic body responses. They are enabled by the same areas of the brain that control our basic survival responses. When we feel attacked or threatened, we experience a fear response and our bodies shift into high autonomic arousal

During abuse, the survivor’s sense of security is compromised, they feel unsafe, threatened. The survivor’s brain can release high amounts of adrenalin to prepare their body to either fight, flight or freeze. This response is hyperarousal, survival mode, or acute stress response. Because of the release of adrenaline, the survivor can be in a state of high alert

This increased acute stress response can pair with non consensual stimulation during abuse, leading to biological responses

This is called excitation transfer. This happens when the build-up of adrenalin and physical arousal ‘high alert’ due to intense fear during abuse, leads to heightened biological responses

In excitation transfer phenomenon, fear-based heightened sympathetic nervous system arousal can induce sexual arousal

It is not the survivor's fault

Biological arousal/responses during abuse does not indicate consent

Biological arousal/responses during abuse does not make the survivor’s experience ‘less valid’

It is a just a sign that our bodies react, just as they do with a rapid heartbeat after exercise, sweating due to extreme heat or an adrenaline rush etc.

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happygoluckywaterrat December 4th, 2020

I had never heard of excitation transfer

Again, many thanks for this thread and your posts

@clare7199

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clare7199 OP December 4th, 2020

@happygoluckywaterrat

Thank u! I didn't know much about excitation transfer too before. I think that knowing that it's a response of human biology, may help in coping with it. Thank u for reading it 💟

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AffyAvo December 4th, 2020

@clare7199 Great post and one that will likely help many!

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clare7199 OP December 4th, 2020

@AffyAvo

Thank u!!

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Kimmkimm April 8th, 2021

@clare7199

I understand the nature of the physical responses of my body, and it makes sense. But it is so hard to accept. Yes, I feel like my own body has betrayed me and the guilt I feel is enormous. I've had terrible nightmares that come with physical pain that endures for minutes after I wake up. But recently, I've felt that other thing too, and it's mortifying. I can not accept it. I can't accept that I could enjoy such a horrible experience and I feel like a monster.

A dear friend in here told me that it is my brain slowly releasing bits of information for me to process. Maybe all of this is happening because my scars are still too fresh and I need to learn to live with it, but, as I am right now, I refuse to accept that it is not my fault, because the guilt is unbearable.

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clare7199 OP April 16th, 2021

@Kimmkimm

yes, it can be very hard to accept even if we "logically" understand the nature of body responses. it can still be very hard to make sense of it and to cope with all the guilt and confusion that comes with it. it's something i struggle with too. bodily responses in trauma aren't talked about much because of all the guilt one may feel. but i would like to say that all guilt belongs to the person(s) who preperated the abuse. self blame is very hard to cope with but it is not yoru fault heart

i understand the physical pain and bodily sensations that survivors/victims can feel during flashbacks or nightmares or when they are reminded of the trauma. that itself can be very confusing to experience. but it is not your fault. you are not a monster. you are a human trying their best to cope with something that is not your fault. something i tell myself when i feel hurt is that my body reacted the way it's supposed to react and that doesn't mean that i mentally wanted my childhood traumas to happen. but it can be very hard sometimes to truly really cope with the feelings

just from your words, u seem really strong and i am proud of u. yes it was not your fault in any way no matter the bodily responses experienced. it is not your fault no matter the sensations or pain u may feel during nightmares. it is not your fault at all heart

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Kimmkimm April 16th, 2021

@clare7199

I've tried to accept it and I just can't. I enjoyed it and that's the truth, no matter if my body was programmed to do so. I should have never felt that.

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clare7199 OP April 16th, 2021

@Kimmkimm

if it's ok to say, safe hugs for u 💟💟

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clare7199 OP April 16th, 2021

it really can be confusing. i've thoughts and still question myself that if i really enjoyed certain things. your feelings and emotions really do matter and u deserve to share them in a safe place where and when u feel comfortable

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Kimmkimm April 16th, 2021

@clare7199

Thank you. I'm sorry for al my negative words and behavior. This is driving me crazy. I don't understand it. I feel betrayed by myself, I feel anger and hate. I'm so sorry to be like this. 😭

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clare7199 OP April 16th, 2021

@Kimmkimm

u don't have to be sorry at all. it's not your fault. u are allowed to express your emotions. trauma is a very hard thing to cope with. it brings alot of emotions, alot of confusing ones. u are allowed to feel them and express them without fearing any judgement

it is hard to understand. we feel betrayed by ourselves and our body. it's ok to express your emotions and feelings. u are being very brave talking about it. this can be very confusing and hard to talk about aspect of trauma. u are not alone and u are enough as u are -a strong human trying their best. it's ok to feel what u feel and it is ok to express it. you'll be in my thoughts 💟

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Kimmkimm April 16th, 2021

@clare7199

Thank you for keeping me in your thoughts, you're a very sweet person. I'm trying to be kind with myself, to repeat ro myself that I'm innocent about it and that my body responded the way it should do. There was nothing wrong, it's just me being myself. It's hard to accept but I'm trying.

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clare7199 OP May 5th, 2021

@Kimmkimm

repeating and positive affirmations can be very helpful. yes you're innocent and very brave to be trying. it's not easy 💟

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adventurousBranch3786 May 5th, 2021

@clare7199 I have some affirmations that I say when having fashbacks of physical responses/body memories. Is it okay to mention them here?

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clare7199 OP May 5th, 2021

@adventurousBranch3786

it's definitely ok to share whatever you feel comfortable to share here and whenever you feel comfortable to share. i'm glad you've positive affirmations that helps

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adventurousBranch3786 May 5th, 2021

@clare7199 Thank you. Here goes: The past is over. I forgive myself. I am strong and will persevere. It was was just a memory of a past event, it will pass. I find these affirmations helpful.

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Cozyslippers May 25th, 2021

Thank you for posting this ❤️

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clare7199 OP May 25th, 2021

@Cozyslippers thank u!!

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