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How to handle friends who refuse to acknowledge abuse

greenSail3488 October 8th, 2023

So, I have two friends that I talk to regularly. Met both through queer spaces, and both seem to be living fully functioning lives. Both seem to have a decent understanding of morality, both stick up for their rights, both seem to have a positive outlook on life and have actively tried to uplift me in my dark moments. Both are very pleasant people. The problem is that both of them are in relationships that seem toxic, but never describe their partners as anything but great. 

One's a trans woman who's dating a guy who almost raped her the night they met. She's a hardcore submissive and writes really dark stories inspired by her experiences, and models the abusive men in her stories after the current boyfriend, but apparently everything is great between them. She's taken trips with him to some extremely dangerous places, the stories she's written about the environments she's put herself in for that guy scare me more than some cockr do. 

The other is a 19 year old lesbian who's unofficially married to the middle school teacher who's been using her for who knows how long. Before that, she was in a relationship with her aunt, and she casually reminiscences about her mother doing stuff to her all the time. Now, I don't know how much of what she says is true and how much is fantasy, but she actively fetishizes that sort of relationship. She seems incapable of going ten minutes without making some kind of reference to how much she loves these "mommies". She had a short lived blog with a different, much more messed up theme that went all out against her real life persona, and that was the only place I've ever seen her call these people groomers (the blog involved a type of mockery of right wing ***, but she wasn't using "groomer" in that meaningless sense. I could sense some real resentment there) 

It's just difficult to talk to either of them when there's something like that going on. I always have to walk on eggshells, or act like I approve of their choices in partners when I really can't. But I can't tell them how to live their lives, and I don't think anyone likes to be told something they enjoy is absolutely evil when they themselves don't feel the same way. I'm worried prying into these things could end these friendships, and I can't afford to lose any more friends these days. 

What would you do if you saw someone ignoring obvious red flags, or defending them? 


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toughTiger6481 October 8th, 2023

@greenSail3488

Have you considered .. they might have exaggerated their past ?     

I know several people who embellish both good and Bad that may have happened in their life. 

Like anyone with issues  until they see the problem or acknowledge it is a problem  they cannot fix it.... and even if you see something you cannot force them to view from your perspective.    

HachiBee October 8th, 2023
@greenSail3488

Heyyy there. I'm sorry you're seeing your friends like that. It really is challenging to witness friends in toxic relationships, especially when they seem unwilling to acknowledge the red flags. That can be frustrating, and as friends, we never want to see them hurt.

The signs you're seeing sounds concerning, so I get why you'd be worried for them. These kind of situations must be approached with care and sensitivity.

It might he helpful to express your concern for their well-being rather than directly criticizing their partners. Because if they're unwilling to see the red flags, they might not believe you and side with their partners.

And be patient, changing dynamics of toxic relationships is incredibly difficult and takes times. Continue to be their support without compromising your own well-being.

And of course, it's essential to take care of yourself too. These type of situations can be really emotionally draining, so it's important that you know your limits. Set boundaries and take care of your own emotional well-being.

Understand that you can't force someone to leave a toxic relationship if they're not ready. Be their friend and support them, but ultimately, the decision is theirs.

They might not react positively initially, they might get defensive or withdraw. However by expressing your concern and being there for them, you're planting a seed thought that might help them reevaluate their situation in the long run.

They need to make their own choice, but having a supportive friend like you and just showing that you care can make a difference. 

You're a good friend, and you sounds like you really care about them. I really hope for your friends be able to consider and acknowledge the red flags you're seeing.

Best wishes 💜