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WiseVoice August 15th, 2023

screenshot-20220423-042138_1692087467.pngIn life, we always hear good and bad behavior, good or bad situation, but the truth is if we look at ourselves independently, there ain't good or bad coz good has to be judged by everybody and we can't reach that, so what does that mean man? It means there's only values, so? There ain't good or bad values? There is but again who defines it? It's you me and each one of us, if your life is a constant misery and failure then you must take another look at your own values! If you're happy and everyone around isn't then your values too aren't that good coz life is all about relationships in the end, right? So that's why you should fall on your face over and over and question your problems and maybe it's about your values after all and their end results, you can't make everyone happy that's normal but at the same time you can't go through life thinking just about yourself and that it's you who has been victimized, because nothing is gonna change and you tried it over and over, so why not try something different?... There's always time.

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Mahad2804 August 16th, 2023

@WiseVoice

That is such a profound and unique perspective Wise. I gotta say, you have really lived up to your name with those words of wisdom.

I think in this ever-changing world and this cancel culture that's taken over, we really need a mindset like this. We need to cut down the arbitrary definitions of right and wrong and reanalyze everything based on how it affects everyone.

Thank you for sharing these thoughts ๐Ÿ’œ

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WiseVoice OP August 16th, 2023

Thanks to you too and I'm glad that I was able to shed a light on this... You're Welcome

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sincereCherry2291 August 16th, 2023

@WiseVoice

I have people in my life who are disloyal to me as well but values i taught better and from same family , as far as friendships or work you can change that , but for family you cant , usually trying something new wont work . I feel that people are not disposable and or you can just pick up and try new when it comes to people ok period . especially what family you have . and values well as the other comment we see how values are different these days but one thing is in relationships its a choice and people can be open up front about who they are what they expect right away upon meeting yet alot of times when your values dont match who you are with or around partner or friendships is that can be very decietful to misrepresent yourself as a loyal let say person or devoted or of both each person s values , i dont think its a question of what kind of values i think its a question of what values you share together and i feel that if people are not happy around you its thier issues too i dont feel any other person is responsible for anyones happiness but themselves and i feel that somewhere along the line they adapted different values than who they were raised as or taught or that they possibly lowered thier standards or have too high standards of expectations of people and sometimes they cant accept that the people around them or with them just cant meet up to whatever expectations are there of them either , why i feel that its important to be upfront with relationships and honest and clear about what you beleive or dont and not exactly values as if good or bad a value can be belief of what you are as a person where you are coming from what you want or need and its understood and there are boundries in life that people cross over and then thats where trouble begins and ends , and just commitments too are part of it you cant just try something new if you have a family or are commited and take vows ok you take vows for a reason , in this new world as the other person said its ok to be understanding or open but its very hard to know if you have this open world of no vows let say and something that keeps that as a statement of your values and promises and commitments to a person or people i mean even marriage and rings then why do people so easily give that up too , how would you represent yourself if you dont have values of good or bad i mean where do you define yourself or another person and i think what you said is more of people cant just accept any type of behavior or have no guide to know whats ok and not ok and i feel its case by case as an individual choice to be honest and open about who you are to begin would solve any issues plus as i feel no one can make you happy or not you have to and added i dont feel life is mostly about relationships at all even , i feel why our world is polluted and trouble with earth is our neglect of it and that we focus on people too much i feel that the world and where we live and go how we respect it is how we end up around any people and even why we end up in relationships is how not visa versa , like when they say stop trying to meet someone and if you do suddenly you will and the right person ok i dont feel values come into it with any new things its good or bad i feel its ment to be or not and that if people dont become transparent and lie and hid values or dont have any guide for another person to know will this be a friendship or wont it and family none of what you said can apply , and i dont agree i feel life is not about relationships ok i dont have the anwer but i do know thats not true i feel its about much deeper than that and takes alot to be in a relationship of both good and bad and in a family . as far as work yes try something different and that might apply to what you say but i dont agree life is so much more than people and relationships

its one of the things that worries me about new generation of people they think that just a relationship defines them but no struggles no accomplishments and or goals of together what you do or need or want and end up lost , just seem entitled to thing s that never end up happening due to lack of real commitment and why are you in a relationship example to begin and how much effort and work and other things should show down the road of who you are and people change and so it is important to define yourself or your relationship if its good or bad and its a matter of choice of what values you were taught and agreed to if you dont have any standards or values or guides in life it be a very uncivil world emotionally and legally and its like having a road with no lights or stop signs ok

people have to know whats good or bad and a guide of what to do or expect and its up to people who always say stuff like people changed or such but i call that quitting too values i was taught where marriage and family values confuse younger people these days i feel its hard for them the generations of younger people to know , i can only say that no life is not about relationships its about what you do and with how lucky you are to have your life and get a choice at all and blessed and earth needs more attention than that no life is not about relationships i feel they come second to choices people make of what they do how they feel what they want and accomplish and what they have to give offer the world over all not just themselves or a relationship for and making other people happy helping people too and how people can make a difference in the world entire world not a relationship only if a relationship can make others lives better , better is good ok so values do apply and have a huge impact on society and world ok , i just think people need to be honest and transparent , people are a problem ok if you feel that relationships are life i dont agree i think they come second once you find your way thru your roads and journeys ok

i have a situation where i am dealing with values questionable its family though and commited marriage of and i feel its compromised so its very hard to say try something different if its your family and if its your marriage ok and you been lied to or uncertain why people you raised changed thier values and have partners who have different value s and they impose on you ok

so no i dont agree life is either good or bad and values count alot just be honest and upfront clear if you put relationships first i dont feel though if you do that you find a good one , i think ment to be relationships and good happy or let say end up happening naturally too when you are envolved in life and the world its self , hobbies work where you live go around and goals of yours plans and such all are determine by what values you have or goals so see i just dont agree in fact i think that being focusing on values is important and defining whats good and bad but for each individual and not to impose on others but if its your family then each person needs to be individual too seen not everyone around you is not true due to you go places not everyone is unhappy ok or happy , and dont you when you go places you go for the place not the people ? and share maybe with one person or group for enjoyment or for a goal or plan or responsibility even ? i think so and i feel its sad that we dont have defined values in the world and why we been so busy with relationships that we have our world global warming and every thing that we been focusing on a relationship instead of our surrounding what was given to us nature and we put more emphasis on people than our world and its sad

no life isnt about relationships ok its about much more and people tend to ruin things by focusing on themselves and people instead of life

i dont have the answers but i do feel values are important and life is not about mostly relationships so i have to say i dont agree and young people need defined values too of whats good and bad as a guide other wise we have uncivil world and you know we do now and you know we have both violence in the world more and polluted world , so no i dont agree with you , and trying something new is called quitting and i cant see where everyone around you is unhappy would be due to any one person why either so i dont agree with that either sorry

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WiseVoice OP August 16th, 2023

That was one *** of a thread but I'll try to reply to you in a broad manner, if life isn't about relationships what are you doing here? Yes this platform, what are you doing on it? Do you know what the term relationship means? You said maybe work? How did you apply for a job or even working in place without relationships around you or with your colleagues or workmates? Even when you do the simplest things in life? There has to be someone in front of you to deal with that's already a relationship that needs to be formed or take place to accomplish your task, plus if trying a new thing is quitting then we wouldn't have heard about many successful people who began with something and ended up doing something completely different and excel at it! Plus who said that values are not able to change? When you're a 12 year old girl all you dream about is a toy or an outing with your friends but with time your brain changes because the responsibility changes or you chose to choose bigger problems or bigger values, and there's no such thing in life called vows because if you do not value this in a good way or true about it then it might end up being bad value, which means you're defining yourself by choosing bad values that can hurt you on the long term and other people, yes you decide and choose but what's the result good or bad ? You know better? So you feel empty or standing in your place? Then you're chasing highs and empty values, how does the world react to your values? people around you? Who are you attracting with such values? I don't think a man who loves a one night stand would attract a committed woman, and vice versa, the problem in this world that people are not brutally honest with themselves because they don't wanna take responsibility and change is tough, they prefer to sit and say the world is responsible for everything happens to me with no clear action, waiting for a savor or whatever thing they're thinking, there's no law says you gotta love or that you're obligated to love or help your family or even your partner if you don't want to, it might sound awful but that's the truth, because you're always gonna tell yourself well I helped and love but they didn't do the same, which means putting expectations that will lead to disappointments later in life, so be free by seeking problems and solving better problems and by changing your values when the outcome is affecting your life or your closest ones... I hope I'm clear this time, it was hard for me to understand your entire language there but I hope to have replied t some of your points... Thanks ๐Ÿ–๐Ÿป

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